You hold a popular position. But we passed postmodern thought by the early 1990s. Postmodern thought is post WW2 to early 90s and gave rise to our current meta-structuralizing, which is coming from several fronts.
The Aleph still blows me away. My high school Spanish teacher, who I’m still friends with on Facebook, is a true post modernist and introduced me to Borges,who I was forced to read in Spanish.
Left alone in the darkness of the cellar, the narrator begins to fear that Daneri is conspiring to kill him, and then he sees the Aleph for himself:
” On the back part of the step, toward the right, I saw a small iridescent sphere of almost unbearable brilliance. At first I thought it was revolving; then I realised that this movement was an illusion created by the dizzying world it bounded. The Aleph’s diameter was probably little more than an inch, but all space was there, actual and undiminished. Each thing (a mirror’s face, let us say) was infinite things, since I distinctly saw it from every angle of the universe. I saw the teeming sea; I saw daybreak and nightfall; I saw the multitudes of America; I saw a silvery cobweb in the center of a black pyramid; I saw a splintered labyrinth (it was London); I saw, close up, unending eyes watching themselves in me as in a mirror; I saw all the mirrors on earth and none of them reflected me; I saw in a backyard of Soler Street the same tiles that thirty years before I’d seen in the entrance of a house in Fray Bentos; I saw bunches of grapes, snow, tobacco, lodes of metal, steam; I saw convex equatorial deserts and each one of their grains of sand…”
I’d say that what I’ve seen of Jordan Peterson, I’d classify his way of thinking as meta-structuralizing, along with various other systemic ontologies that have been arising from postmodernism including 3rd wave feminist theory, the rise of activism in popularist movements found online, etc
Can’t turn back the clock.
Oh Z is the EMBODIMENT of post-modernism. It’s quite amazing.
Both. You don’t need a theory when it’s actualized. The thing is, the actualization of postmodern in a way of thinking neither glorifies nor disdains postmodernism. It just “is what it is.The way post-millenials utilize memes is VERY distinct from how “edgy dank millennials” do and did.
Sadly, nothing handy. Observational. Important to note is I’m using “Minecraft generation” as dividing line.That’s approximately 2003-2009, I’d say. Earlier I consider XBox generation millennials. Later is fortnite kids, which is distinct from Minecraft generation.
I immersed myself around 2010/11. . I made myself ready for the internet he was going to inhabit.I was surprised when slightly older kids than him suddenly showed up on what were usually grown-up areas of online. So, I watched what they did and how they did things.
I saw a distinct difference between them vs young adults that were online already. In various meme places, Youtube etc, I saw that even though they shared a similar humor, it came from a different place.
Young adults (millennials) had/have an axe to grind. But the Z kids didn’t, so millennial edginess just formed part of their “naughty humor”. All ironic.
Equivalent to me might be George Carlin, who was an icon of humor and political thought when I saw a kid.
He was older, had an axe to grind. I was a middle school kid. I had my own axes to grind that weren’t his but overlapped a little.
So for example, he hated religion. I laughed at his anti-religion jokes but I also was a church going kid. I didn’t see a conflict. One was ironic humor.
I think z’s take millennial seriousness in a similar way.