You don’t know his story either. You know your story. How can you expect him to take your story with any seriousness if you assume his?
Is it dick size comparison? “The time(s) I almost died” / “You can’t know what it’s like, man” stories stacked side by side to see which one stretches out the furthest? And the longest one wins the ideological battle?
I knew a guy who spent a year in jail for stealing a 4 wheeler when he was days after 18 yrs old. He milked that story for years. “Don’t know what it’s like on the inside man”.
Heard the same from people who spend overnight in county lockup for drunk and disorderly.
Heard it from a guy who got his arm chewed up by an alligator and the scars and he’d get girls that way.
You got a right to your “I almost died / don’t know what it’s like” – I could tell you a few of my own – but using it to justify a questionable political position is a little odd.
I’m Mr. Mild. There’s enough people going “end of western civilization” around me online that I don’t have to participate in that.
It’s sorta exactly like politics. You’re going to get a politician. Doesn’t matter if born, bred, raised, decided one day to do it, when you’re in politics, BOOM, you’re a politician.
Question is: Which one? It’s not like “none” is currently an option, so the choice makes a big difference.
Might be. I just know the disinformation tactics are getting *pretty* sophisticated these days and sliding a note in sideways like this isn’t impossible.
If it’s verified by the guy who supposedly said it? Then I’ll believe it.
Well, I don’t know what they’re like. I don’t have a problem with it either tbh. The internet never should’ve gone corporate in the first place. But now that it has, “it’s free market baby!”, applicable to local laws.
There’s always another host. You can start one from your bedroom. You don’t even need fancy names like dailystormer — just a set of 4 numbers separated by dots.
Yeah, traffic provider and DNS afaik.
Oh I know. They’re huge. I sometimes pop over to the digitalattackmap and see what’s the attacks-of-the-day and I know cloudflare plays a huge part in that information pool and in the processes within.
Getting kicked off cloudflare is a BIG deal.
But it’s still not getting kicked off the internet.
TIP: Don’t run a site that’s going to get DDoSsed. Most sites don’t.
There’s others. I use one from England and they have spots in Cal and Chicago. They’re cheap. They also have some super-questionable sites on there. Not as questionable as some but more questionable than others.
About three years ago every site on it was tagged for some reason and I couldn’t get to my own site for a bit. My site’s IP ended up being classified along with shit sites that were there too. But they sorted it out within a few hours.
I’s similar to Cloudflare stuff but not as humungous. Just a smaller operation.
I’m glad they did it. That message about the women who died was “line in the sand” for me too.
Someone’s genuinely getting buried in the ground over a US protest. It’s not a cop: that’s sad when it is but police take that risk.
Citizens shouldn’t assume that risk, so when I saw the dailystormer post, I got binary. I knew what line to draw.
Cloudflare drew the same line as I did and I’m really tolerant. But this one was too much.
If this establishes a precedent, I’m glad. Free speech protections have a stopping point. That was the stopping point for me.
Once somebody dies, it’s game over. Shields away. Enough with the fa/antifa. For me, it’s done.
I understand “uh oh, precedent” but this *is* a novel situation in the USA.
a) “free speech matters”
b) “free speech leads directly to death”
c) “free speech denigrates the dead person whose death was caused by free speech”.
Guess what has to be curtailed in this situation?
The moment I saw that dailystormer (before cloudflare took off the site, although I’d first heard it was GoDaddy), something changed in me. Weirdest feeling too. I guess I got… political? I dunno.
All of the sudden, “free speech” was out. If there was a sudden lockdown police state for a few months? Ok. It was that level of, “enough”