Worldwide, the narrative is shifting. When I heard today that “Trump is no longer the Leader of the Free World” and other articles speaking of “no longer the G7 but the G6″, it’s a pretty big deal. Merkel is in her game and getting the buzz. The idea of the US fading to irrelevance on the world stage is not likely but our role is shifting.

Worldwide, the narrative is shifting. When I heard today that “Trump is no longer the Leader of the Free World” and other articles speaking of “no longer the G7 but the G6″, it’s a pretty big deal.

Merkel is in her game and getting the buzz. The idea of the US fading to irrelevance on the world stage is not likely but our role is shifting.

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It’s a shame because Trump gave an admirable performance in the middle east — it was very impressive. Then he goes to Europe and it’s embarrassing.

Why you guys are talking about the past election is strange to me. Time’s moved forward from there and the world is shifting.

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Euporean and Indian newspapers, yeah. “Merkel is looking beyond Trump for her next ….” are how headlines are being worded and I believe she is.

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Thing is, the US is getting wrapped up in ourselves. We’re busy with internal investigations, us/vs/them on a national but not international level, and basically navel-gazing politically.

Meanwhile the rest of the world has stuff to do, and we don’t seem to be a country that’s up for it anymore.

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Jera, that was September. I don’t know if people are talking about that anymore. The conversation’s moved.

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Republicans always investigate when they’re in control of the House. They love investigating.

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I’m not following the Russian investigations because I find investigations boring dull and soap-opera-ish. Lots of bombastic noise and seriousness and absurdity. Seems to happen whenever the GOP is in charge of things at least since the 50s. They love a scandal to investigate but never was my thing. But I figured I should look it up. Most of the players are GOP, so no surprise.

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There’s no alternative though. Trump’s President now. Election’s done. Whatever happens next is likely going to be whatever happens while he’s there, so it’s “Clinton who?” “Sander’s who”? “Obama who?” for me and has been for a while.

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I see a success in the Middle East (so far) and a big flop in Europe. I see a lot of signings that get fought in the House and/or Senate and/or District Judges and stalled indefinitely. But I’m sure some things are getting done that help some people. I frankly am more concerned with Betsy Devos than Trump to be honest.

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I don’t worry as much about higher education although some of the proposed budget cuts are ridiculous. I’m more concerned with primary and secondary education under Devos. She wrecked the state she worked in and they’re still recouperating but hopefully there’s enough push-back to prevent the worst of her ideas from coming to fruition.

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I’m worried about super rich mega church schools swarming in to dominate preferred areas (white) at reasonable voucher rates while non-white areas are left without a public school alternative and without the big bible church $$$ that Devos’ foundations have to offer.

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I wouldn’t even care if they put “prayer back in schools” or had mandatory prayer sessions for all students or whatever. It’s just the brand of Christianity they’re behind is what we called as kids “scary Christians”. It’s a business-minded breed that is facade.

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That’s today. The future her foundation has been architecting is much different than today.

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Having finally done so, with some trepidation for how often that can turn ugly, I must say your points are as salient in politics as they are in math and science.

Thank you. That means a lot. I know we have some political differences but I think we generally have more in common overall and most importantly we have what I believe is the most important foundation: friendship first. It gives the power to smooth differences without them having to be plastered over.

I think you’re right. We had different backgrounds and yet somehow ended up with similar attitudes.

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agree completely. It’s rare. Given enough time I think it’s possible to convert *most* people to a more scientific mindset but it can be tricky when emotions are heated and people get stuck in the “me vs you” type of thinking. But neither of us need converting to that way of thinking because we do it already.

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Indeed. I was very impressed over the last few months. When you posted your confession about working for the Trump campaign while holding different opinions it was something that most people would not do and I was impressed by your candor.

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You can always tag me on something; I enjoy the challenge if it’s tricky, so no worried. I had no idea I was part of the reason for it to be honest so thank you! I’ve been staying away from political stuff for a few months now, clearing my head while keeping 1/2 an eye on the news and it’s been helpful.

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lol I didn’t think of that! I guess enough time has passed for both of us that we’ve each decided to start poking around again. Kathy Griffin made Trump ‘head’ of state today and I guess it made a difference [actually it’s when I saw a headline this morning declaring that the US is no longer the leader of the free world that I realized I need to start looking into what’s happening some more.
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I just hope it’s hyperbole. I’ll make 20% room for politics now. I think I may start by looking more into Merkel because I have a feeling she’s going to be a very significant player for the US. I don’t see her or Europe or NATO as enemies but it’s clear now that they’re not friends with our current President so I need to get a better feel for things. Strangely enough, I was fine with Trump’s Saudi globe thing as that was a surprisingly normal thing for a President to do in the last 40 years.
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It’s the 1950s again but more expensive. Probably was expensive then too. All the excitment is good for lots of businesses. Lawyers, travel agencies, news organizatons of every political stripe… and it’s a good smokescreen.

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Yeah, America’s part of the industrial revolution featured coal mining and manufacturing towns and moved from there. I don’t know if we can go back to that though. It means that Europe will be in charge of world affairs – and we’ve gotten used to being the big cheese.

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Thing is, old money is in coal/oil and there’s lots of untapped earth, especially in our national parts. Having the head of Exxon in the role he’s in is to scout foreign business connections for our future product.
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Oh we don’t have to export our oil. That’s what Saudi was for: keep our OPEC connection. But… we have coal and that’s as good as free money for the feds (and anybody who runs a business who has connections to the feds, which is Trump and co, and amicable partners in House and Senate with their business connections.
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It’s the people he picked and their agendas, not so much him.
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Look for existing efforts in the US first and see how they’re doing. I remember my college (Hampshire) was going all solar – don’t know if they did — and I’ve heard a few towns in the US have done so. Solar tech recently got cheaper due to a novel fresnel lens style – only read a little about it — but yes, municipalities that are converted will make a huge difference. I don’t know about being bought out though: it’s likely the one that would buy us out would be oil/coal – the old ‘buy out then shut down’ routine.
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I await “the better battery” myself. Energy storage = artificial coal/gas. Smaller, longer lasting batteries with invertors means you can charge with anything and can fit more power in less space however you charge them.
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