Up until 1984, it was ok to perform operations on babies up to a certain age WITHOUT pain medication

Agreed. The sides talk past each other constantly, each making valid points but they miss the other’s arguments.

Laws decide, “At [x] point, it’s a growth. At [y] point, it’s murder.” Where that point was, is, and will be subject to ongoing debate and will likely shift and change over time.

Medically, we’re surprisingly backwards in our attitudes. I’ll give an example:

Up until 1984, it was ok to perform operations on babies up to a certain age WITHOUT pain medication because it was believed by the medical establishment in the USA that babies don’t feel pain.

We ACTUALLY believed that. 1984. Not that long ago.

Parents knew better. In fact, pretty much EVERYBODY knew better. But because of some clever use of logic, the medical establishment was able to believe something different.

Oh well. It’s just one of those issues I suppose.

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