Trump wins? Stay focused. Get involved locally. Hold tight. Time passes. Constitution strong. Don’t just let politics happen. Know who your local representative is. Engage. Politics is now everybody’s problem.

Stay focused. Get involved locally. Hold tight. Time passes. Constitution strong. Don’t just let politics happen. Know who your local representative is. Engage. Politics is now everybody’s problem.

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I expect lawsuits from the DNC and elsewhere. Also important:

“The meeting of the electors takes place on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December after the presidential election.”

So, this is not the final result. A lot can happen between now and then.

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I’m not sure. Maybe Clinton will concede should Trump win But maybe not. I don’t know.

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It’s our Brexit. I’m not shocked but I am disappointed. First Russia closes off its borders. Then England Now we’re doing it. Seems to be the thing these days.

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Psst: Election’s aren’t rigged. Political saavy but not rigged Painful way to find out though.

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Change isn’t overnight. Government is slow even when it’s fast [except for dropping bombs]. Things take time to happen and in that time, other things can take the place to fix what’s being dismantled in some form.

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It was never rigged Unfortunately, the rhetoric from both the left and right about “rigged election” is likely part of the impetus for the “American Brexit” to prove that it’s not rigged.

Democracy works for better or worse. It works.

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All that rhetoric from the left + right about the elections being rigged?

Surprise. Our elections aren’t rigged.

Now, use your democracy already.

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If this restores faith in the American political process, is the cost worth it? Well, I suspect we’ll be seeing a lot more grassroots politics happening and perhaps those long term never leaving Congressmen will start getting flipped out of office over time.

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Shaping isn’t quite the word. They’re reacting. Markets are nervous nelliies. But make the markets nervous and it affects real world trade. But it’s going to Trump – almost completely certain. Electorate vote isn’t ’til mid December though, and lawsuits by the DNC or govt agencies are possible. Time will tell. This is just the start of ‘something’. What? Who knows.

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I think it’ll be an all-in win. No rigging. Democratic system works. Large protest vote successful. What next? Markets react (are affected) first, other nations respond in different ways. Economists are prepared – lets see what their next play is.

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Unlikely. It means that people really have to get involved in politics. This is the American Brexit, following Britains protectionism and Russia’s before it. Seems to be the thing now. But it also proves that no, the election _wasn’t_ rigged. Democracy works, so there’s that.

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Hope not. Counting on National Guard here. Military doesn’t always follow DCs dictates. So, we’ll see.

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Havne’t seen it but I’ve heard of the connection I’m just as bad. I don’t know who my local rep or senator is I don’t write letters. I don’t get involved much. But depending on what happens next, I may have to. Democracy spoke. It can speak again.

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Politics is in your hands. You have to get started. Know who your local reps are. Watch politics unfold in real time. Write letters. Find out who to support. Democracy works – we see that tonight. Make it work again.

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You have to infect the system from where you are.

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You did all you could for this election. But there’s policies you can affect positively. Be the asshole whose letters your rep and senator hate receiving. Find what you can stand behind.

Look at this election: Trump had almost no path to victory it seemed. Election is rigged right? Wikileaks? Sanders at the Primaries?

But this American Brexit is proof democracy works. It’s more than votes. It’s participation in other small ways that lead to wins. I’ve never gotten involved because things were more or less fine. Now, I have to get involved because I want to see a new Congress next time and a decent President. We lost our chance at a decent one this time because we let gossip get in the way.

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Well, if you’re looking for centralized, I guess right now we have to see what Phoenix rises from the ashes.

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Democracy works This is a good thing. It’s not rigged. It was never rigged. Left and right believed that it was rigged. Confidence was lost in the process by those who needed to believe in it the most. This is our American Brexit but to fix it starts now. The system as it is will protect the USA from most stupid Trump decisions because without a rewrite of the Constitution, it will, but some stupid decisions will slide through Congress or a future Court. So, now that we know elections aren’t rigged, we can learn democracy again and make it work.

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Democracy doesn’t always give the best and brightest but it’s not ending tonight without a Constitutional rewrite. It can be fixed in the future if things are put in motion now.

Lay back and give up is what allowed this to happen.

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People voted for symbols this time It was a very idealistic election. People left their reasoning behind Mind you, I’m fine with people voting their conscience: What they do in the election booth is their choice to make and i wouldn’t take that away from _anybody_.

The republicans came out in force and plus, statistically a republican follows a democrat, a democrat follows a republican. Plus, the ‘thing to do’ these days is go hard right protectionist [see Russian followed by England followed by us].

So, this is how things go. Some things we can influence some things are just gonna happen. But it’s still worth pushing for what you think is right I voted for Clinton with no regrets. It wasn’t even close to an equal “lesser of two evils” choice. But, people get caught up in the mudslinging and gossip, so whatchagonna do?

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I expect him to attempt to executive order everything. Fastest apparent path.. Congress will get in the way though That’s their job.

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You voted the king of bloated, money fat and corruption into office. Should be interesting to see what happens next. He put a good sales pitch and got enough buyers for his product. They signed on the line So, what happens happens.

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I guess they know they’re gonna need it. Privatized medicine might not be able to provide it though, so prolly back to drug wars soon

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Investors get ready to invest. Hard to know who is strong as market volitility is likely to continue as a wet-behind-the-ears politician is voted in this American Brexit.

Alas, I can’t jump in at the moment but I’ll be keeping 1/2 an eye on the markets just the same. Idealism of a sort was the win of the day but will idealism bring food to your stomach? Time will tell.

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Proof democracy works and elections aren’t rigged.

American did a Brexit and markets are collapsing worse than after 9/11. They’ll recover as they always do, but how long? Who knows Hope you got gold in your basement.

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You believed a used car dealer and bought the worst car off the lot. Empty contract is signed, no accountability to seller. Well done America.

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Oh yes. Welcome Mr Trump to Washington where the big boys are. He’ll certainly be in for a culture shock.

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lol “power to the ppl” – viva la revolution You did your job. He’s in. Now Congress will do theirs.

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Yes, and they’re in Congress which has more muscle than the executive office. Welcome to Washington Mr Trump.

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There’s a reason why the US has survived all sorts of wacky idiots in the executive office, and imbicles in Congress and doofuses in the Supreme Court, and moronic Govs. Checks and balances. Somewhere betwixts the empty promises and the idiocy, we have a slow, inefficiently designed government that prevents most major catastoprophies *and* most useful things ever getting accomplished.

Your revolution would have to go from Congress up. Ain’t happening top down. But enjoy your night. You earned it.

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Possibly, although there’s retirement funds and volitile markets at stake with him. Maybe heads of large corps. They’ll appreciate his tax reforms.

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Democracy works. Elections aren’t rigged. Hopefully this will encourage more to get involved in politics instead of being passive.

meanwhile in canada, a meme is going around there from what I’ve heard:

https://media.giphy.com/media/EFyxFNTW9KTx6/giphy.gif

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Should be interesting to see what our Brexit brings. First Russia, then Britain, now the US follows suit. Next few months will be telling.

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true. I forgot that “middle class” goes up pretty high. Nevertheless, there’s only a few income producing/investment vehicles available for anyone.

You’ve got stocks/bonds, real estate, run a business, own several businesses. That’s really about it.

If the peso keeps tanking, dollar worth more in Mexico, US businesses will be quickly doing business with Mexico and establishing relationships to take advantage of it, moving functions to Mexico, it’s good for business.

If markets tank, there goes that vehicle.

People don’t usually sit on gold but prices on metals are already rising. We lose our relationship with the Saudi’s we’ll be cracking open our own soil for oil surplus trading.

Anyway, interesting times ahead. The people have spoken.

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Elections aren’t rigged. Democracy works. More interest in politics will hopefully follow and people will start working towards Congressional reps that represent them properly. Flipping the Congress over time will help the future. Meanwhile, I expect Congress to do what they do and stall Trump as they want to keep the power for themselves. But at least it proves democracy works and elections aren’t rigged. Hopefully this boosts confidence in people for the future.

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I’m not ready to hear more than a minute or two of him speaking but I’ll get used to it. [he’s not the first President I wasn’t crazy about but i got used to them all]. The two minutes I saw, he looked Presidential. I’m hoping he continues that. The image he presented before was ugly and unbecoming of a President. But if he fits the role properly and flies right, I’m sure he’ll do fine.

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Most of those “vote switching” machine reports turned out to be false, although some were true. [in one case, the vote ‘stuck’ because the machine requires you to press the one you already pressed to ‘unselect it’ before you select another. In another case, it was a miscalibration – pre-iPhone technology there – I remember that in 2000].

But that’s why we have judges at various levels – not that they’re infallible but it’s something. In some states Voter ID laws were struck down because they were corruptly designed, in others they stayed.

In my own state of Florida, the Dept of Elections tried to throw out a bunch of votes due to a technicality but a federal judge said, “No”. Votes are rights.

So, there is a fairness in the system as a whole because there are a lot of people invested to make sure “the other side” isn’t cheating. Overall it works. But yeah, it could be a lot better.

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It took me a while to get used to Bush. Oddly, I voted for him in 2004 as I liked his cabinet and figured they could help him see us through to the end of our middle east engagement. Never expected him to change it a month later.

Live and learn.

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Crucial to me has always been not the person but rather the people they take advice from. Trump is the first case I can think of where I don’t know who he will listen to. So, I’ll wait to see who his cabinet is and who he takes advise from.

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If I was still investing, I’d be right on top of this. Problem with this more than post 9/11 downturn, we don’t yet know where the uptick is. Market is nervous nellies – the Dalai Lama farts and they are concerned. You’d think a system designed upon the concept of The Rational Man wouldn’t be so damned emotional.

Should the fall continue and gold rising as nervous investors bail out, housing markets usually follow 9 months later. But economists are likely prepared for this scenario in some way. Then again… there was 2008, so I dunno.

I’ll have to see what my buddy Ken Rogoff thinks about this.

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If I was still investing, I’d be right on top of this. Problem with this more than post 9/11 downturn, we don’t yet know where the uptick is. Market is nervous nellies – the Dalai Lama farts and they are concerned. You’d think a system designed upon the concept of The Rational Man wouldn’t be so damned emotional.

Should the fall continue and gold rising as nervous investors bail out, housing markets usually follow 9 months later. But economists are likely prepared for this scenario in some way. Then again… there was 2008, so I dunno.

I’ll have to see what my buddy Ken Rogoff thinks about this.

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Kenneth Rogoff thinks very long term – centuries forwards and backwards. Contrarian, sometimes writes for Project Syndicate, – first emailed him in 1999/2000 as he was a writer for CBS Marketwatch and I liked his style, which I learned was contrarian, as it fit my way of thinking well. Really nice guy.

He’s part of the G-30 too – never knew he was a big shot ’til about a year ago. Anyway, these are some of his thoughts, not about a Trump win but about Trump’s thoughts on the banks.

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Yeah – diamonds in the rough. When popularity goes one way, you immediately look in the opposite direction at the unpopular and find out who is strong. Go opposite of public sentiment. Everybody’s looking right and up, you look left and down and see what’s on the ground. That sort of thing.

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One example: early 00s, oil was tanking (lol pun) as an investment vehicle. Stocks dropped to low levels as fighting was happening. Exxon and everybody else was devalued considerably. It was just after “energy futures” (Enron etc) blew up in everybody’s faces.

But they weren’t where all the action was going to be. Those companies WERE tanking and rightly so.

But who WAS unfairly undervalued in the nearby industry?

I found a little company that got devalued along with everybody else. Questar. They just drove natural gas from Texas to Ohio I think. Tiny company but it did a lot of critical ‘infrastructure’ type work. [ppl need their natural gas in good and bad times].

So, I ploughed into it. Did really really well. Got to witness amazing growth over the years, several stock splits, company growth, then the company split into two, and then split again into two ADDITIONAL companies, and when I finally finished with it (it was my last stock to sell a year ago perhaps), I can’t even count the % increase I made on it.

Oddly, I only invested in them for a short time – maybe six months and then I sat on it and reinvested the dividends.

I’d pick at the profits now and again for $$$, then finally cleared out the principal when I could see that it was going to tank again.

It’s not my only example but it’s my favorite.

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Well, the establishment isn’t going anywhere (without a Constitutional rewrite), but as he sits behind the desk and faces politics in action, he’ll learn as he goes. Establishment got cocky though and we got a nice reminder that voting works, democracy gives its answer, and mathematical crystal balls don’t work well with people.

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Yeah I think contrarian investing style would work well for your personality. I haven’t invested since early 2002 – picked away at it ’til 2014 or 15. Did DRiP – dividend reinvestment. Used sharebuilder. [I dunno if it’s still around or any good anymore tbh].

I dove deep into it, got obsessed, learned everything I could. Portfolio survived and thrived during market crashes (even 2008), booms and busts, and I never had to do a thing to it. Best advice, and the majority of success was simple: invest majority in the market indexes. They’re like placebo is for medicine: very hard to beat. [a sugar pill is almost as good as most medicine, which is why alt medicine seems to work so darned well].

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