Tim McDonald So, cause and effect is meaningless to you? You can mix time together freely so that cause comes after effect? My claim is: 1932: HUXLEY INVENTS TERMS AND DEFINITIONS. PUBLISHES A WORK OF FICTION CALLED A BRAVE NEW WORLD. 1948: Frans de Waal is born. 1960 – 1981 : Frans de Waal reads A BRAVE NEW WORLD. (between age 12-33) 1975: Frans de Waal starts a 6 year study on captive zoo chimpanzees at one zoo. 1982: Frans de Waal publishes a book “Chimpanzee Politics” based on studying captive chimps in cages. Sometimes after 1982: Newt Gingrich starts giving away a copy of “Chimpanzee Politics” to every young Republican entering Congress, telling them that “this is how everything works here in Capitol Hill”. 1993: Internet starts getting more available to the public and no longer just universities and military. America Online is a good part of it. post 1993: Online societies form of various voluntary groupings. 2000s : as evolutionary psychology continues gaining a foothold in universities and wider acceptance as it tries to shed its odd “sociobiology” beginnings, the graduates graduate and unemployed with lots of free time, bring the ideas onto the internet and start populatizing it in gamer hierarchies, “manosphere” online men’s only spaces for jokes and discussion like Bodybuilding Forums etc, popularizing the ideas. 2009-ish: 4chan starts mocking the hierarchy brutally. But the brutal mocking starts shifting to belief and pride in the levels as people do not realize it’s all just jokes and the bodybuilding forums seriousness mixes with the 4chan humor. 2024. Here we are today. That’s my claim.

Tim McDonald So, cause and effect is meaningless to you? You can mix time together freely so that cause comes after effect?

My claim is:

1932: HUXLEY INVENTS TERMS AND DEFINITIONS. PUBLISHES A WORK OF FICTION CALLED A BRAVE NEW WORLD.

1948: Frans de Waal is born.

1960 – 1981 : Frans de Waal reads A BRAVE NEW WORLD. (between age 12-33)

1975: Frans de Waal starts a 6 year study on captive zoo chimpanzees at one zoo.

1982: Frans de Waal publishes a book “Chimpanzee Politics” based on studying captive chimps in cages.

Sometimes after 1982:
Newt Gingrich starts giving away a copy of “Chimpanzee Politics” to every young Republican entering Congress, telling them that “this is how everything works here in Capitol Hill”.

1993: Internet starts getting more available to the public and no longer just universities and military. America Online is a good part of it.

post 1993: Online societies form of various voluntary groupings.

2000s : as evolutionary psychology continues gaining a foothold in universities and wider acceptance as it tries to shed its odd “sociobiology” beginnings, the graduates graduate and unemployed with lots of free time, bring the ideas onto the internet and start populatizing it in gamer hierarchies, “manosphere” online men’s only spaces for jokes and discussion like Bodybuilding Forums etc, popularizing the ideas.

2009-ish: 4chan starts mocking the hierarchy brutally. But the brutal mocking starts shifting to belief and pride in the levels as people do not realize it’s all just jokes and the bodybuilding forums seriousness mixes with the 4chan humor.

2024. Here we are today. That’s my claim.

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