The reason I brought them up is because of the overlap we have here of ambiguity.
I wanted to highlight the ambiguity that makes these issues confusing and makes discussing them difficult when there’s ideological differences.
We both use the term “capitalist”.
However, I don’t consider all business owners capitalists. Many run businesses that are very NEARLY co-ops and NOT capitalist enterprises.
Those are businesses where everybody is SURVIVING/managing, the owner gets more for the extra risk entailed but not gross.
I don’t consider those Capitalists. They could easily be swapped out in a co-op business arrangement and there’d be almost no difference.