the notion of objects was always that of a transient, collective quality, alike-and-dissimilar-things momentarily cooperating in a grand set of dances by affinity — a deeper affinity which includes a notion of momentary repulsion for the sake of the dance – and then, without prior notice or with, disperses

You’re good in this area that I’m awful at. Never could quote, remember names, even the notion of objects was always that of a transient, collective quality, alike-and-dissimilar-things momentarily cooperating in a grand set of dances by affinity — a deeper affinity which includes a notion of momentary repulsion for the sake of the dance – and then, without prior notice or with, disperses

 

 

I have a lot of 3×5 spiral notebooks filled up with to-do things that I started as a teenager sporadically then more and more. Mostly to-do things. Somewhere along the line, I kind of stopped and been just involving myself in whatever interests me at the moment but I think it’s because I discovered having “defaults” and that it was ok to make default choices for things.

Yup. That’s what I started doing. Sometimes it irritates others. For example: if someone asks me to do something, if it’s a “pick up, walk over there, drop thing off” type of task, I’ll do it as close to immediately as possible. “Oh you don’t have to do it now” I’d hear. But I do. It allowed me to free up my mind.

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not I. Started working at 12 or so doing custodial work at my church as a kid. Is it physical? It’s a lot of moving around but it’s not intense except setting up and putting down tables and things and that’s not that big of a deal. But most jobs have been punching keyboards, although I’d get physically intense doing data entry. Still at 110 wpm. But I’d also use that time to learn Russian, or bring in email on a diskette in the days before online-at-work, reply to people, bring the diskette home and upload replies.

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Actually, I take that back. I am intensely physical in producing output of my thoughts. I can’t sit and ponder without producing something for it.

 

Probably is. I stuttered as a kid. Speech therapy in 3rd grade. Strawberry paste in the back of the mouth. Had to create a ‘pause’ to think in. I dunno – it worked. I’ll stammer slightly when tired and I had to remove my um and uhs over the years as that’s a common habit for ex-stutterers to adapt. Mostly I just try not to talk at too much length in uncertain situations if I can help it.
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 Congenital deafness means never really hearing fully what anybody’s saying but doing a LOT of guessing. My brain comes up with some WILD sentences on the fly as I’m listening to someone talking so it can be a secret source of comedy in my head sometimes.
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I don’t get it with words or letters or symbols. But sounds are alive. Creaking door. motors. cow mooing in the distance. The sound of my fingers hitting the keyboard precisely but the every so slight delay between feeling and hearing and seeing the words on the screen — those tiny tiny millisecond gaps are a thrill.
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I think for me it’s taste and sound and textures that link together.
I don’t know if that’s any kind of synthesthesia though. It’s just my preferred channels I guess
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auditory gustatory. Odd word to type. gustatory. Gustatory. Gustatory.
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Things break up into components for me usually. I think that’s the excitement. Sounds break up into parallel pieces, tastes turn into a musical thing with occasional starburst vision things, etc.
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 There’s lots of tastes. I don’t know the names for a lot of tastes. I remember getting excited each of the times I’d realized a flavor was copper, another was zinc, another was steel, another bronze. I don’t like the bronze taste as it has lead in it, which is a dark evil flavor but that’s thanks to public service announcements about lead as a kid
I agree. Some have nostalgia value. Rubber and water is a hose taste. PVC water is camping trips as a kid.
Yeah, I mean, it gets us started for sure. What amazes me is that you can close your eyes and imagine spaces and experience a sense of travel through them that you could not with your body or see with your eyes.
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It’s still real though. I mean, it’s the main connection we got so we might as well call it real. I’d like to say that it’s drawn.

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Yeah, I’ve definitely read him. It’s rare that a person’s name is familiar to me so that it was at the vaguely familiar / recognize but not recall is pretty big for me.

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That’s mostly likely the source. I first encountered embodied cognition in 2014 I believe and was instantly hooked. It was a good answer to “law of excluded middle” for me and was the missing piece as to “why” I didn’t care for computational theory of mind DESPITE having a computer-mindset about most things.
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It’s why timing is so fascinating to me. It’s a metric we can externalize – a different mirror to the self that thanks to periodicity we MIGHT lost the clarity of the first 2 milliseconds – and we do – but by the 5th millisecond we can distinguish down to 1 ms.

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It’s calculable. You can feel it coming, know when it’s the right time. Can count it even.

I’ve written it down ahead of time. It’s knowing repeating processing.

An example which I haven’t been able to do since the price increases but could for a few years was look at a pile of groceries and tell you how much it is within $5. Timing’s always a range. Exactness depends on what level of granularity you’re looking for.

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 Yeah you can. “Now”. Feeling wells up, brain chattering or not but when you know you know. The way you time it perfectly is to be 1/2 a second ahead of the cycle. 500 ms is more than enough to to be consciously aware of the action you’re about to take
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 Yes. In that body it’s possible to have an internal auditory counter that’s aware of the throwing moment of the basketball or the loosening of the arrow moment. It’s an otherworldly feeling because of the slight lag time of simultaneous awareness and going back to internal verbalization – like the heart skipping a beat but just one — and it’s a high for sure.
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My brain is full of kitchen timers and stopwatches basically. It’s not always perfect because I chose to ignore it much of the time – but when it’s important I can be on a task, get that gut feeling (one of the timers went off internally) and I have enough time to go do what needs doing at that moment. Or I can pay attention to the various clocks going at their own rates in order to attend to different things simultaneously. It’s no different than tracking musical instruments in a score as they play. There’s a limits I’m sure – but I don’t worry about those.
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 I think 3rd person is the illusion. There is only subjective and collective subjectivity. Some say through mirror neuron that there is an I and thou – a 2nd person that is a reality too – but a 3rd person view is more wishful thinking than anything and yet, we do it continually, like using the heavens as a giant pegboard to hang ourselves and all activity from.
It’s my inspiration. It makes sense to pick something far away yet almost within reach.

 Oh I meant my inspiration for calling it a pegboard. Collective subjectivity (we can all see the stars) is an example of the general notion of agreement with an outside source as a measure-of-truth. In the case of talking about Hartry Field for example, he would be a fixed star the concepts in science-without-numbers come from and our own ideas may be compared to.
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I know his name, heard he had two phases, something about relativity in linguistics and something about private/public speech. Never read his work though. I think I tend to appreciate what I think is the gist of his jibe but I seem to remember there being something I disagreed with where I think he went a bit too far for my liking.
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