The notion of comparing “free vs equal” I think is sourced by https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman To those who ascribe to his notions, they see a fundamental dichotomy between free and equal. I don’t think t is a valid for qualitative reasons.

The notion of comparing “free vs equal” I think is sourced by https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Milton_Friedman

To those who ascribe to his notions, they see a fundamental dichotomy between free and equal.

I don’t think t is a valid for qualitative reasons.

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I’m glad to hear that. Now, I think if you put that same reasoning to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory you will reach a similar conclusion.
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 I think it is incorrect for qualitative reasons: the distinctions are not only multi-varied but also there are many other combinations possible that do not fit in a linear Left <–> Right continuum to where it can be said, “Far left and far right are mirrors”, as any similar observables stem from far different causes.
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 Now is not care/responsibility/etc entailed by ownership? It may be at different levels, but I think it can be argued that “owning” can be construed as a reduction of freedom
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 For every item you own, of whatever kind, it must be stored, which reduces space which is taken up by item.It must be maintained, which takes away time (maintaining takes time) and free thought (for some thinking is needed in order to remember to maintain and also how to maintain).All items have a lifespan of their own. They wear out.So, awareness of suitability at any time during ownership is a reduction of thinking freedoms as is having a proper disposal process and also a replacement process (if needed).
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 Anything you want, yes. That “want” is a loss of freedom. Want is lack. You are fulling a lack. How you fulfill that lack? Any time you are considering how to fulfill that lack you are not thinking about something else.A reduction of freedom.
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 I’d be a slave owner. With that freedom, I would grant their freedom.
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 But, if I am forbidden from granting freedom to slaves, then how free am I?
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  I have never to my knowledge been able to relate to the notion of slavery or being a slave owner.I would find it an obligation, a burden that does not justify itself.
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 Choice is a paramount quality to me and if I have a degree of freedom not afforded to someone in my purview, I do what I can to use my extra degree of freedom to grant it to them, at least at some level.
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 They do. But within that framework, however restrictive it is to my sense or measures of freedom, I will do what I can to grant my freedoms to others who lack. It may be via agreeing and empathizing with their lack. It may be spreading awareness to societal changemakers to fix what I measure as an irresponsibility on the part of society. It may be through using my freedom to teach the less free how they can better utilize the freedoms they have. [education, knowledge, “how to”, etc]
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 In my view of “what is freedom?” granting equality is a natural part of it.
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 Wait: It is Equity not equality. I often swap them by mistake.
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 Indeed. In micro domains, such as a set of 3 or 10 people with insufficient resources for all, arguably one could justify “control over” as a form of freedom. “I am free because they are less free”.But I don’t think it scales well.I suppose I expect or assume the existence of a class of people who are far removed from my domain but who provide the rights and restrictions a “we” can work within, and so my thinking is limited to my concern among those with whom I can free.I can shake my fist at the class (or classes”) beyond me but I don’t see much point in that outside of convincing the “them” to assist in greater equity for the “us”.
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 To be clear, I’m referring to lawmakers as the class of “them”.
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  I don’t care much about assets beyond a limited domain.That domain is: well-being.The rest is optional stressors.
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 I don’t think pursuit of happiness is global, nor necessarily a good thing. But
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_well-being is.
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 They have since the day I was born. It’s built into the system in the USA.
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I have had solutions for this since I was a kid and much of that has shaped my pursuits and interests in life.
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 Change is ongoing. Unthinkable becomes thinkable. Having principals allows for a rudder though.
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 There’s many layers of restrictions. Earth is real estate.I took 30 hours of a real estate course once before realizing it wasn’t for me. But I learned a lot.Ownership of property is contingent and very limited.Real estate, in pure form, extends to the center of the earth and up to the reaches of the observable Universe.Now, start adding constraints.
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 Real estate functionally stops at atmosphere, but only because powerful nations agreed through treaty to globalize space.So, now you own up to the sky.But there’s radio waves transmitting. Are you responsible for those radio waves now?That would be absurd or impractical, so there are authorities with greater real estate reach that maintain the skies. (airplanes and such are also included).So, now you’re down to a bubble about 30 feet above your roofline.But what about below?Waters run. Foundations affecting nearby structures are there. But so are minerals and oil.First come, first serve and most of it’s claimed already.So, now you own a bubble stopping at 30 feet above your house and down about 3 feet below your foundation, where the water table usually starts.

The edges are also constrained. Where I am, first 30 feet around y property is not my ownership, as county can have that in case they need to add a road.

So, it’s actually fascinating.

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 t is. But they’re not controlling radiation or air pressure but rather controlling flow of such.
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 They monitor, issue licenses etc.For you to purchase real estate that ALSO includes air space, it would be unreasonable expensive for most people.
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 With antennas and radio equipment, it’s easy to monitor both wide and narrow bandwidths.
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 The way bandwidth operates in air space is similar to water pipes, gas pipes, etc. They control flow and access.
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Oh, I was talking about freedom. Many things constrain freedoms but in exchange for loss of freedom in one area, you may or should gain freedoms in other areas.So for example, you lose vertical real estate.But now you gain horizontal access to services such as cell phones, etc.
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 Roads, internet, water pipes, sewer removal, garbage removal, recycling service, TV services, electricity: these all operate horizontally, cutting across large spans of real estate.
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 I suspect life continues as normal for most people. It does in the USA as well, despite dramatic news stories.
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 We’re in a similar situation. I admire the notion of a truly classless society but I also know that class is a reality.
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