The nature of Church might happen to be administrated through whatever administrative boundaries exist but remains ecumenical through their common communion.

The nature of Church might happen to be administrated through whatever administrative boundaries exist but remains ecumenical through their common communion.

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Some strange names were quoted there. I recognized a few of them, who if i remember right, were not sainted because they held some strange beliefs but most of them didn’t seem like church names.

https://oca.org/questions/society/war-and-non-violence

“the Church forbids the bearing of arms to its clergy and does not allow a man to continue in the ministry who has shed blood, theoretically even in an accidental way!”

In short, the clergy cannot have shed blood. They are expected to be the examples for the people to follow. But the people are trapped in a weird and relativistic world whose demands tear them side to side: they don’t have the administrative protections available that the clergy have.

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Also, the early church fathers were known – right from the time they were speaking and beyond – to speak symbolically about delicate things such as sex.

Example, you might think this has to do with war right?

Nope. It has to do with sex.

St. Athanasius

“Although one is not supposed to kill, the killing of the enemy in time of war is both a lawful and praiseworthy thing. This is why we consider individuals who have distinguished themselves in war as being worthy of great honors, and indeed public monuments are set up to celebrate their achievements. It is evident, therefore, that at one particular time, and under one set of circumstances, an act is not permissible, but when time and circumstances are right, it is both allowed and condoned” (The Letter of St. Athanasius to Amun).

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Just like today, we rarely speak plainly about certain topics. We use symbolism, metaphors, allegories, and the Greeks were the masters of these forms.

Texts like the above have been copied and passed down for 1800 years and used by monastics in their training. Have you seen Orthodox monks wielding swords?

No. Why? Because they interpreted the text correctly all this time.

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Rudder

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To myself? No. Your novel interpretation invented out of the blue by some guy on a website does not compare to a handed down interpretation for 1800 years, from monk to monk, priest to priest, faithfully translated and copied long before the internet or mass publishing.

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Are you establishing your kingdom here on earth?

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There is no “just war” theory in the Orthodox church. But all matter and energy can be consecrated.

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Roll your own church like a pothead might roll their own joint? interesting method.

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Hm. Interesting. Who compiled the New Testament?

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uh huh. and who kept the false Gospels being passed around at the same time from making it in? Who decided to put in four points of view of the same events to help provide evidence for the Resurrection? [the differences in narrative are no accident, as witnesses *do* recall different details, then as in now]?

There were other accounts, other accounts that contained falsehoods, additions by the Gnostics, additions by the Monophysites and such.

Somebody kept out the riff-raff from the doctrine and is the REASON WHY you get the nice collection of books you enjoy today.

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uh huh. and you have authority to pass such condemnation in the name of Christ, when I haven’t even died yet? interesting technique.

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uh huh. Well, that’s sure interesting. It’s a monk by the way. Priests have to do too much talking.

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Enjoy carrying your falsehoods with you to work and enjoy your time spent here while you can. Time is short. It’s always short.

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This is why I’m not in a monastery right now.

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The Moscow Church has barely been part of the ecumenical council for some time, always teetering on the brink of being kicked out.

The ROCOR was formed at some point a few decades ago to become the true Russian church. Part of it let themselves be welcomed back in, believing the Moscow Patriarcate had changed but others stayed separate.

The Orthodox take communion VERY very seriously.

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He’s part of the business swindling post-Soviet 90s and hasn’t changed a bit, except gaining a little twinkle in his eye for publicity photos. He’s a pro at public relations, but then again, so were the Soviets. I give credit where it’s due. They always appeared bigger and stronger than they were or tried at least.

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Economically Russia’s a disaster. Their energy production is crap. Why did they and china need $500 BILLION in coal? Because: they’re not able to make as much as they need for their people. Russia is dying and all they have is a smiley twinkle faced Putin and some political connections.

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