“The Masses” It does not exist. Just temporary insanity of sports-like things.

“The Masses”
It does not exist.

Just temporary insanity of sports-like things.

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Most people believe they’re outside of it. So many people believe they’re outside of it, they might as well not exist at all.

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But if it’s important to you that there’s this blobbish entity known as “the masses” that you’re somehow outside of because they believe [x] but YOU believe [y], go for it.

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Perhaps.
But the more I see, the less I’m convinced that anybody’s in charge. Just boatloads of pretenders desperate to appear relevant.

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It’d be nice to have evil overlords that knew what was really going on that I could then tap into through reasoning and study so I could know what they know.

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Sports management is one of the more chaotic venues of entertainment, although no worse than Pharma or the average lawyers office.

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Lots of bored people with too much anger and slightly above average intelligence for their own good, lots of free time, and community.

They learned how to start rumors and inverted rumors and multilayered rumors.

Brick and mortor govt/biz/etc is years behind as always, even at the ‘top’.

I’d love to believe there was some efficient organization operating SOMEWHERE, but bumbling is all I ever see.

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That part’s true. Food and entertainment . Keeps civil unrest at bay.

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Tribalism = sports to me. Always struck me as ridiculous.

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Do you want to know who I think is the master of governance?

http://ietf.org

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If they get hooked, it could last a lifetime.

But I don’t think it’s embedded.

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All I know is, if you deal with people on an individual basis, you can usually find reason.

The exception is when they’re caught up in a sports mentality and don’t want to leave it, because the righteous indignation at the other team’s mere existence — and believing that I’m of the other team – breaks down communications.

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Venue yes. But one-on-one is usually different, unless they bring the venue with them in their minds.

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Sports and sports-like things can lead people into a state of temporary insanity. The environment created.

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I had one-on-one violence in school and a couple of times as an adult.

But I wouldn’t be marching in places where I need to worry about anybody coming after me. I avoid those kinds of venues. Foolish people that do and who bring arms with them? Well, that’s issuing a challenge isn’t it?

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The only related question to that that matters to me really is:

“Am I?”

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That’s all anybody’s talking about that I see. But I’m mostly online. I see the same tired pictures with the red circles and lines, THE TRUTH THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO HEAR… all over the place.

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Eh. I see more of a push from the right to convince moderates to take their side than I do anything else. MSM is mostly dead and has been for a long time.

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The media I see doing the most intentional distorting starts in the dark corners of the net, spreading ideas so they percolate and infiltrate regular people as they go about their normal social networking.

Used to be limited to AM talk radio but a new home was found here.

Just keep in mind there’s never just “the media”. There’s media on all political sides and not all media comes tagged with network names.

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Free speech I’ll defend. Leave the guns at home. Talk about the 2nd Amendment. No need to prove it when you’re supposedly only speaking.

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Yeah, I thought we’d have a digital town hall by 2017. Something more organized. But I guess data collection is the best they can do and sift through it.

Maybe it’s more natural this way, although I prefer to have specific intent rather than assumed intent shown.

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Ok. Well, I prefer lives over law but I’m not much of a yay violence kind of person.

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I believe I saw some efforts done during recent elections, although gamification of those systems by people who REALLY want their results to be on top became a problem.

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It sets up a hostile environment when only speech is supposed to be what’s sacred there. Muddles things.

But I know some places see it differently. In Texas, they believe everybody should be armed so that the fear of sudden death will keep people automatically decent to each other.

So I dunno. Never was an issue I care much about either way.

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T he march never should have happened. The town didn’t want them there. They decided what they wanted to do.

The local statue preservation society sued.

The ears on the right got wind of it and decided “What a great place to do UniteTheRight”.

But the mayor said “no, not here”.

So, the UniteTheRight people got the ACLU involved.

The ACLU sued the town.

The town folded and said, “Whatever. We’ll bring police then”

The rest is history but it’s being written/rewritten daily.

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No. What the town wanted was the only relevance here.

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People from out of state come trampling in from all over the place who don’t know or care about the area or its unique issues.

Technically they’re allowed. Lawyers decided.

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A county away from me is “Lee County”. There are statues of Lee there. They’re figuring out what they want to do. So far, they seem to be keeping it because he’s not ‘charging into victory’ just in a business suit.

Do *I* want bloodshed on the streets of my nearby county by people who aren’t from around there?

No.

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Citizens should expect a reasonable level of safety in their communities.

If the local or state police can’t protect the free speech of unpopular opinions from out of town, then hello National Guard.

They’ll be welcomed.

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Protest on their own turf instead of a traveling circus with little shields and barely legal machine guns would be nice.

Too cheap to rent a football field for their SCA battles? Meh.

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If the police aren’t capable of handling the inevitable problems that come with the travelling circus, then towns should block them until they find towns capable of securing the facilities properly.

In those areas with a proper police state in place, then they’ll be able to have their constitutionally guaranteed free speech.

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I don’t want out of state people in my local area.

If it takes Florida or Lee County or Ft Myers or President Trump creating a Police State so that the KKK can have peaceful armed speech?

Then fine. Police State it is.

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Keep defending the rights of neonazi speech when NOBODY ELSE in the planet is doing so. [only the USA and two other countries allow it at all), and we’ll get there.

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There’s the internet. Why do the boots have to be on my local soil too? Why do they have to bring shields and guns?

I don’t understand why people are so gung-ho for guns and battles and violence and shit.

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I believe it was ALL US citizens there.

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ok. Protest brought counter protest. Counter protest more effective than protest. Do I care the counter protesters are publishing the info of the naked-faced protesters online? Nope.

I don’t agree with their tactics of calling their families and workplaces though. I find that a step too far.

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But “free speech” that involves advocating killing and violence is, to me, “yelling fire in a crowded theater”.

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You’ll just have to figure it out. You have the narrative you like.

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All I know is, unfettered free speech can lead to a situation of losing free speech. Not all free speech is created equal.

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All I know is: I expect towns to privatize public areas and shutter down in response to this mess.

Everybody’s pointing he said / she said fingers and meanwhile, most people don’t really give a shit. They want to get up in the morning. Go to school/work. Feed their families.

Politics is a murmur in the background of most people’s lives.

  Subversively popularize political ideologies that assign power to people who would wish to restrict free speech and the laws then change if they get into power.

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You’re focusing on an event that came and went and now we have aftermath and decisions to make in response.

The courts can decide ‘the facts’ when the man is put on trial.

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Free speech is the 1st amendment. It’s not the constitution itself. It can be taken away without affecting the constitution.

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I don’t know. I just know that people are prone to a sports mentality and like binary thinking.

My team good. Their team bad.

So it doesn’t take much to get someone on their team with the right words.

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Nah. Binary thinking’s been around forever. 1950s communist trials for a good example.

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I dunno. America’s prone to binary because our politics is binary.

Few countries have binary political systems but lots of variety. They can be loosely categorized as left/right but the connections are more multifaceted.

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America goes from mommy daddy mommy daddy mommy daddy.

Right now we’re in ‘daddy’ mode. With Obama, it was mommy. With Bush it was daddy. etc.

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I see politics as sports. I try not to get too excited about teams.

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No. The “masses” aren’t people united by a common cause.

That’s sports. Politics. Whatever. Stuff with a venue.

“The masses” is this idea that there’s this commonfolk that aren’t very bright and more or less go with whatever the noisy person in the room says.

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Or, they’re ignorant of what the noisy person in the room says. Whatever. The point is, the masses are always ignorant of some ‘truth’. But who the hell isn’t ignorant about something?

If there be masses, none of us are outside of it. To me, it’s an unhelpful term.

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”  “Unwashed horde” is my syntactical preference

But I make no excuses for being an internet dweller. I’m proud of it.

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My hygeine is fine actually. I don’t primp unless I have to though.

 

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