The effects of large amounts of matter acting in concert
against other large amounts of matter
Can cause unpredictable effects locally which grow and cannot be predicted either by appealing to the large to small or the small to large.
these are systemic and active.
The words that we use that we consider metaphysical that successfully appear to describe phenomenon are also physical in nature but there is no guarantee that we will ever be able to explain them with accuracy or succinctly because of their complexity relying upon systems on top of systems on top of systems.
this is what i mean by being unable to reduce everything to simplest forms because the simplest forms may be tremendously complex systems.
it’s all matter.
mind over matter is Matter over matter.
there are larger systems that impose upon smaller systems
if someone lies to you it’s a physical process.
if someone believes it’s mind over matter and get religious about it that’s also a physical process.
your beliefs that the scientific method is the only insightful explanation is a physical process as is the reasoning that brought you there.
the populace that believe its spiritual are following physical processes of belief.
spirituality is also a physical process.
its more complicated than cogs and i think there is more than enough “play” in the extremely complex machinery for consciousness to have a relatively comfy function, for people to come together in large groups and follow internal physical processes to sing a song to their gods and for you and i to reason through all of this on some very complicated communications equipment which is also physical.