The Doctor’s the Doctor. I say I love it but I say that with EVERY new doctor that comes about.
Was Capaldi a win for grumpy people with bushy eyebrows? The 20-something Doctor a victory for Millenials? Peter Davidson a victory for blond haired people? It’s Doctor Who. Who cares if people are cheering for other reasons. You like the show or you don’t.
I’m glad the Doctor’s something other than British Isles white dude who hangs around Cardiff an awful lot. [cheap filming I guess].
That said, every one has been distinctive while also retaining the basic ethos. I see no reason for that to ever change whoever plays the part. If it makes some people extra happy this time around for whatever reason that’s great . If people are complaining, well, that’s nothing new. Back in the 80s, people had a shit fit over Sylvester McCoy’s “Super Scottish” ways. Always people complaining about something.
Sure it will. It’s primarily a kids show, not for old farts complaining about every little change. You get some 8 yr old girl or boy looking at a female archetype saving the Universe through time and space with a character that’s ALWAYS BEEN perfectly capable of becoming anything during a regeneration, and it makes a difference. If it didn’t, people wouldn’t be getting so upset, would they? Obviously hit a nerve with many.
Still waiting for a Chinese Doctor, complete with Confusius Say things. Don’t know why I haven’t seen that yet.
I’d be fine if the next 3 Doctors are women. Doesn’t matter so why not?
I’ve never been disappointed by a Doctor, once I got used to them. [there’s a break-in period]. Seem ‘em all, enjoyed them all. It’s all one character, different facets. That’s one of the things i like about the show. Makes it unique.
Whoever (whomever – Doctor Whomst’d’ve ) gets the role is going to have to be the Doctor for the rest of their human natural life.
Only one has gotten away with running off, which is #9, but the rest accept their mantle and do it well.
They have a lifetime to follow of conventions, all the way to their funerals. It’s that kind of a role. A lot of actors are afraid of roles like that and rightly so.
That’s you and that’s great. Everybody’s different.
I started Doctor Who age 8 with my grandmother. Influenced a lifelong fascination with theoretical physics and the nature of time. [had it as my declared major in college but the professor I wanted was away, so I did something else]. Still fascinated by it as an amateur.
The idea of being the same person while also different people at the same time influenced me as well, made me open to the weird personality shifts I see in people, where they’re one person then an emotion makes them seem like someone else. I don’t expect rigidity out of people or myself.
So for me, influential? It was. I’m actually not much for most sci-fi really. Authenticity is overrated as it’s rarely achieved and when it is, there’s often a good reason why it’s not popular: it’s not that good.
I take back what I said about authenticity. But really, the thing about Doctor Who is it’s ever-changing. I expect surprises and I get surprised. Once, the Doctor said, “I lie”. That threw me to the core right there. “WHAT!?” and then I thought about it: of course he does. But it broke open the idea that ANYTHING he’s ever said could just be part of his own in-Universe fable of himself. Flexibility for writers. Flexibility for the show. I like it.
I read the last few episodes a little differently. What I saw was “Back2Basics”. Reintroduce the Doctor. What it’s like. Throw in a couple of curveballs to keep it new.
Steven Moffat’s problem with strong starts and weak endings is probably the biggest complaint people have had about him, but really, it’s not that awful, we just get spoiled.
I’m glad we’re getting something OTHER than British Isles white guy who hangs around Cardiff a lot.
I mean I’d be fine if they kept doing that, but really, a shift of some kind is overdue.
Well, he’s alien. I love it when an alien morality is brought out in an episode. He’s not human nor should the Doctor act/behave the way we think the Doctor ought to.
I had to make a huge adjustment when Colin Baker took over. i was like 12 yrs old. Didn’t like it at all at first. But it was a great reminder that the Doctor *isn’t* human, and consistency is really our problem not the character’s. As an alien, anything goes and fans need occasional reminding of that.
Yet, in all that, the Doctor’s about as consistent as any of us are. You think you know who you are until you’re tested and sometimes “who” comes out of you can surprise even yourself. Always found that fascinating.
I had a major shock when it went from Davidson to Colin Baker . I was 12 years old. Hated the change. I’d seen every available episode of all the other Doctors by then but Colin Baker? Couldn’t stand him. Then I realized something: Doctor’s alien. Not human. I learned to expect a different morality, different ways.
That said, I found interest waning because I started complaining about the scripts, or “Now they’re just appealing to younger kids with the stupid new title sequences and even worse specialfx”.. and, well, I was being a typical 12 yr old about the whole thing. I didn’t even have an internet to complain to, just myself.
I noticed the budget slipping. I’d see bad editing. And when Sylvester McCoy came out, I was sure the show was doomed. Yet, I didn’t expect it to actually go.
Then it went away. It sucked. Long 15 years. Didn’t expect it to return. [never did the books and stuff]. So now that it did? I’m glad. They could make the Doctor into a bendable straw and I’ll watch it. But somehow I think she will make an excellent Doctor. I can’t take it for granted. I had to get my fix with TIMECOP and shows like it… ugh… it was a long period of time.
anyway, I don’t mean to try to invalidate anybody’s opinions here. Mine aren’t anything special. It’s just I was always a relatively lone fan of the show, knowing very few people who liked it. So even today, when I have had easy access to fellow Who fans for decades online, I still never got over that lone fan feeling.
Doctor Who kills many an acting career. Anybody who does it has to be willing to do conventions for the REST OF THEIR LIVES. How many actors wanna do that?
People are going to be hypercritical but they always have been. Will she be a Colin Baker? I don’t think so. I think she’ll do fine.
I think it’s because the new director worked with her in the other show and is comfortable working with her on a regular basis. It’s logical.
It’s funny I remember the Whovian thing too. They’d do pledge drives with the local Whovians manning the telephones and I remember being so cocky and proud of myself that “I love the show but I’m not going that far. I won’t go into costume. I have my limits” and yet, I envied them because they *did* go there. So, I never called myself a whovian. Still don’t know why I always had that disconnect in me but I always did. Plausible deniability of some kind maybe? I dunno.
Didn’t get that community back then. Always the “top nerd” in a situation, especially with computers but I was more like, “little professor”.
It wasn’t until I first got online that I got my first real nerd environment. But of course people were scattered everywhere, being online. CB Radio was a bit nerdy but not the right kind of nerdy and for online I had to travel by Greyhound to visit new online friends to find similar nerds as me but then it still wasn’t balanced: they were either less nerd than me or more nerd than me.
Perhaps it’s fear of letting go and allowing a subculture to just wash over me and I get involved in it. I’d dip my toes into various subcultures but rarely go all the way into things. Eh, I dunno, always a bridesmaid never I bride I guess
not to be further sexist but who used to always be the traditional cooks in households? blood and chopping.
Who traditionally fixes booboos? Mommies and grandmas. Cleans up poop and vomit? Threads sewing needles? Has to stay calm with all the kids are screaming? Is the sex of most American public school teachers? [being the rational one in a sea of chaos]?
If it turned out women were better surgeons it wouldn’t surprise me, although I don’t really know either way. Men are equally capable of these things too as far as I know.
The Office is one of those shows I’ve successfully avoided because it looked like something I might end up getting hooked on. I hate getting hooked on shows ’cause then I have to see every episode and stuff and then I start bringing it up in casual conversations and… well, it gets ugly.
Sounds the Spader i knew too. I saw the Stargate movie… then a few years later I avoided the TV show for a few years until one day I sat down and watched it. Then another. Then another. Now in the TV, they had a replacement Spader but the new actor captured all of Spader’s best qualities really well.
Next thing I know, I’d seen every episode of every Stargate series and 15 years went by. Hate when that happens.
People that miss that important fact of the show aren’t living vicariously through Doctor Who because despite regeneration that being a “last minute idea 50 years ago” it immediately became absolutely crucial in understanding the Doctor.
So to me, gender change is simply long overdue. They’ve hinted at it plenty of times through the decades but sneakily so. Society had to catch up. Still hasn’t fully though, which amazes me.