Status Quo in this group is akin to how Bullying is handled in schools:
Toss those who complain about bullying.
This basically American public school in a nutshell.
So it has precedence
That’s what school administration tries to do though.
They sent the bullied kids to an alternative school or suggest to the parents that “that maybe their school system isn’t the right fit for their child” and that they find better horizons elsewhere.
You get a bit more control online but the strategy is the same. Just more effective online.
Administratively, it’s identical.
There _are_ alternatives to this strategy. I’m just pointing out what kind this one is.
The failure with: “If we start doing X, when will it end?” argument is: You can stop doing X.
Example: If we start allowing any kind of post here and ban anybody who reports, when will it end?
In either case, you have full control if you are engaged administrators. You don’t have to be of course.
It’s the same. Mark Zuck just gave a little extra power to ignoring people in a group without having to ask permission.
Switching seats in class so you don’t have to sit next to the person bothering you.
The empowerment is thanks to Mr. Zucc. But in other online forums where users don’t have self-initiated ignore powers, it’s the same as school.
So be sure to thank Mr. Z for this extra empowerment.
Things are how they are. But sugar-coating it isn’t justifying.
Admins _do_ have the power to make changes to a group and aren’t powerless. It’s a choice to administer a group how one administers a group. They have greater choice and power than members do.
“We give you all the power unless you Report” isn’t giving power. It’s establishing boundaries of compliance. Compliance = freedom is the best we ever get in life but then there’s different kinds of freedom – but that’s another story.
Still working on kindness.
I enjoy communicating online by typing. I like engaging with people. I like a little friendly back and forth debate between individuals.
I don’t like when there’s dogpiling in a group and will take underdog’s side MOST of the time, unless they’re trolling or particularly atrocious in their opinions unironically.
Some people like a voracious, engaging debate and I’ll SEEM unkind to them but I’m really being kind, as that’s what they want.
Sometimes I read the room wrong though and have been unkind thinking I was being kind.
Having choices is power. But we can’t ignore the hierarchy in place which grants differing powers at differing levels.