So I’m reading “Cybernetics and the philosophy of mind” Sayre, Kenneth M., 1976/2016. I’m on page 208 + I’m STILL agreeing with everything. I’m not used to that. I stumbled upon all of these parts through the years the hard way, had no idea it was all in this one old book.

So I’m reading “Cybernetics and the philosophy of mind”
Sayre, Kenneth M., 1976/2016. I’m on page 208 + I’m STILL agreeing with everything. I’m not used to that. I stumbled upon all of these parts through the years the hard way, had no idea it was all in this one old book.==
Kenneth Sayre’s “Cybernetics and the Philosophy of Mind” (1976) was a good, familiar read even though I’d never read it before. Had a little trouble with subjectivity at first, but he gave an answer from Kant. “while space is the form of all outer appearances, all inner determinations are represented in relations of time (Kant, 1787), the self being an ‘inwardly focused object providing temporal continuity serving as a reference by which different fields can present simultaneous appearances’ seemed like Cartesian theatre yet the self as “temporal organizer” is a strong point.
 
Part 1: The Mind-Body Problem 1. Introduction Part 2: Fundamentals 2. Information 3. Entropy 4. Feedback 5. Causation Part 3: Organism and Environment 6. Life 7. Evolution 8. Learning 9. Consciousness Part 4: Mentality 10. Society 11. Language 12. Reason 13. Subjectivity
From the start, he forewarns to being squarely Platonic so I wasn’t surprised at immortal immaterial things which was still kept to a minimum.
This talk of the subject was also in an area where he described the notion of uploading one’s mind to a computer by Weiner, 1954 (father of cybernetics I think) to be reconstituted later in a different body or machine – and then justifies immortality by describing what amounts to in my mind, a “data object” as one might find in a computer – which certainly qualifies as an illusary object that appears but doesn’t exist.

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