People were coming in from all over the country to protest the removal of a statue in front of a town hall in one particular town, chanting and bearing torches on what’s a local issue. If it was a normal protest event, cops in helicopters wouldn’t have been streaming in. But yeah when they say “3 dead”, it’s misleading. Not the most misleading headline I’ve heard. [I’ve seen much more misleading headlines than that – three people *did* actually perish] but a national organization effort for a local problem seemed a little strange.

People were coming in from all over the country to protest the removal of a statue in front of a town hall in one particular town, chanting and bearing torches on what’s a local issue.

If it was a normal protest event, cops in helicopters wouldn’t have been streaming in.

But yeah when they say “3 dead”, it’s misleading. Not the most misleading headline I’ve heard. [I’ve seen much more misleading headlines than that – three people *did* actually perish] but a national organization effort for a local problem seemed a little strange.

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For all I know, local people didn’t give a fuck about the statue either way.

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To me it was primarily a local issue. Were the people of Charlottesville VA upset about the statue being removed or maybe most people couldn’t care less about it either way.

But I *do* know that people came STREAMING in from all across the country to make it *their* issue.

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Now if I was in that town and found the statue an embarrassment? I’d move it over to a local park, away from town hall. That way everybody wins.

That’s a New Orleans political issue. This is a Charlottesville VA issue. Is everything federal level now?

I don’t like when federal gets too involved in state and local issues.

I didn’t like Common Core for that reason.

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Then the people of St Louis should write angry letters and protest to the Mayor of St Louis and settle it.

Why people from Reno, Nevada have to leave their cats with their mom and drive across country to carry a tiki torch to then be embarrassed because his picture is splattered worldwide is beyond me.

I can only speak for myself here. I don’t know if that guy is a white supremacist or not and I don’t believe I said so here.

But some people were and they seemed to be welcomed there. David Duke was having a field day there and he’s always been proud of his status in that dept.

Does that means all were? Probably not. I’m sure there were some that were there for the genuine history issue and all that too.

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Those who weren’t there for the history issue, should’ve stayed home. If they did, it’s likely nobody would’ve died that day.

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Ah, but as centrists? Don’t have to. They’re already united everywhere you go. Everything’s shades of gray and stuff.

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Predictable far right trash article. They make the poor innocents like this Nevada 20 year old went ALL THE WAY across country to protest a local statue removal issue in Virginia get all sad because he became the face of articles like the above.

He just wanted peace and harmony of course… as I illustrated in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/kenneth.udut/videos/936519121238/

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People that like driving around going to rallies like driving around going to rallies. Most people don’t drive around going to rallies.

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I looked at those cute little homemade wooden shields everywhere on both sides and was like “wtf man? big roleplay?” and then there’s “That One Guy” that took the whole thing way too seriously and rammed his car into the crowd.

But honestly? 3/4 of those people should’ve STAYED HOME. It was a local problem, local issue of a town removing a statue they didn’t feel represented their town.

The organizers certainly should’ve kept out those bringing in the nazi flags and shit. It takes away from whatever legitimate beef they *might* have had.

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I’m all for free speech but events like these are the reason WHY Universities don’t like white nationalists showing up to give talks.

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Angry mobs yelling “Kill this” and “Kill that” is “fire in a crowded theater” talk. Bad mojo stuff.

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I ate at a Red Elephant pizza place once. Terrible pizza. Not gonna watch their video. Sorry.

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That’s media tho’. They like hype. Reality it? Most places, most towns, 99.98% of the USA doesn’t deal with or care about any of this stuff, outside of family squabbles, water cooler and bar arguments and Facebook posts.

Life goes on normally nearly everywhere, almost all of the time.

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Oh that. Yeah. American = war-mongers. I doubt America’s been 2 days without warring with SOMEBODY. Pain in the ass. Foreign policy embarrasses the shit out of me and always has.

But domestic squabbles? We’re 99.999% words only. Exception: Police. But outside of them among regular citizens? Nothing like you see on media.

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Oh gosh, I don’t get into the “dem rothchilds” things. Most of the rothchild family is dead broke do-nothings living off the vapors of past successes mismanaged by money-handlers who pocket while they’re not looking.

I mean, if you want some kind of illuminati, go for it, but ain’t my bag.

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I think that’s why conspiracy’s so popular. An evil overlord means at least SOMEBODY knows what’s going on and if they know what’s going on, then I know what’s going on.

The sad fact seems to be that chaos is normal and keeping the chaos animal at bay is the best we can do.

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I attract very intelligent people who have it all figured out or are working on having it all figured out. Among some who have it all figured out, there’s conspiracy involved. Among others, they’re theoretical physicists wrapped up in the math, or they’re religious people who have the whole system mapped out, etc. I always learn something but I keep my skepticism filters on and I’m glad when they point out my faults. I like improving.

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like for example, as far as i know, kids in elementary school in the USA *still* recite the pledge of allegiance as it’s still some sort of weird requirement… there’s never been ‘only two genders’ – he was just unaware – there’s been electric cars on and off since the early 1900s and steam before that…. so to me he’s just ignorant and remembering a past that neverwas.

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I try not to think about the government here. I’m from New Jersey, where I learned to try not to think about government too much. The only thing I’ll say for FL is they make doing business stuff, even micro-business, REALLY super simple. Outside of that, they’re a bunch of assholes like all of them.

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No surprise. It’s a $$-maker. Anything positive I can say about living here came out BEFORE Evil Mr. Clean got in and it’s just a lucky thing it’s still in place. [Sunshine Laws primarily. What I like about Sunshine Laws? Everything’s public knowledge. That’s why Florida stupid acts are ALWAYS in the news. Cop does a stupid? It’s news. Citizen does a stupid? News. Mayor does a stupid? news. All open for anyone to see.

This is contrast with New Jersey where privacy was everything and everybody was paranoid and you had to pay for every piece of paper you needed.

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I wouldn’t have thought all that openness was good but really, it’s surprisingly fine. I know exactly where local convicted sex offenders are around me and I could find out who didn’t pay their property taxes if I wanted to and the awesome thing with all this access to everything? Nobody really cares what their neighbor does.

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Regarding OP:
* those

It’s THOSE. He learned it in school. He *knows* it’s “those” but _chooses_ to use “them” as some kind of subcultural signifier. Stop it. Write those. “them days” sounds like a bad old movie stereotype and you don’t want to be a stereotype do you?

Oh.. you do? You like fitting into molds? huh.

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always a false narrative pushed by the leftist agenda. darn kids can’t seem to get ANYTHING correct anymore it seems. aw shucks.

good thing you got the red circles and lines people to save the day yet again!

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THANK YOU RED CIRCLES AND LINES PEOPLE! WITHOUT YOU, WHY, I’D HAVE NO NARRATIVE! YOU FEED ME JUST WHAT I NEED WHEN I NEED IT. THANK YOU!

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I think they should’ve moved it to a park somewhere away from Town Hall.

Then everybody would’ve been more or less happy.

Clearly the Town Hall didn’t want it there anymore. Keeping it so much in the center of town sends a different message than the town wants to send out.

But off in a park where people can do whatever it is they do with statues (I don’t ‘get’ statues myself) and Town Hall can put up the mascot of the Charlottesville VA high school or whatever better represents the town instead. Makes sense to me.

As far as people flocking over there from around the country for a local problem? I don’t get it.

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I don’t know the specifics honestly. Maybe they *were* gonna move it or maybe destroy it, I dunno the details. Thing is, we wouldn’t KNOW about it except that people were pouring in waving big Nazi flags.

When you start seeing big Nazi flags, even one, it kinda gets people’s attention. If it was kept to a genuine local historic issue, I doubt anybody would’ve died that day.

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I see no reason why we should even know about their town’s issue. It was escalated beyond that.

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t’s a FACT that a lot of the people there, regardless of their actual political affiliation , were NOT from the South.

They were not fighting a South issue there. Confederacy is a southern issue that means something special to people from the South.

People that *did not belong* were there. It was not their issue.

It was just a field for the SAME people who travel to different cities to fight the SAME fight with the SAME people, like LARPing folks who are too cheap to rent out a football field for a day.

There’s no Civil War coming.

I noticed a lot of little wooden shields on both sides. Why would “peaceful free speech protestors” bring little wooden shields, to THEN be matched up with OTHER people carrying little wooden shields?

It was like that trolling thing where a group will take their battles into innocent forums, trash the forums, then leave.

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All on the same team ultimately, manufacturing battles for their entertainment and to stir up media trouble? Yeah.

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They’re loving the trouble. Within hours, I saw a horrible post defaming the character of the woman who was killed.

And we’re the suckers who join their little skirmishes online. None of it will cause civil war, just annoyed words in forums and bars like all political things.

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The people most into it seem to be outside of the USA. Canada, Australia, England. Talked to some from Germany and Eastern Europe too over the past few years.

But it could’ve been an American asshole too. Plenty of assholes to be found in every corner of the planet.

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Oh, I don’t know/care of it’s state-sponsered or not.

Doesn’t need to be a centrally organized thing anymore. Just an “idea” – a meme that spreads. Bored people gladly take up the torch and go with it because they’re smart enough to do it, not worried about consequences, and bored.

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Eh I don’t get into that side of things. There’s millions of tax dollars being spent to figure that out for me. I don’t have to think about it. I got a buffoon for President and just have to hope there’s enough people wanting to keep the country together that are cleaning up his ass after him as he shits.

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