Oh I just meant a few little things. I think what I mean is, whether or not Russia did or didn’t, the results we see are likely the same either way. I’ve been noticing a lot of people on the right (and a few on the left) using what we’ve been calling “Putin talking points” for years now – since 2014 and escalating from before and through Trump’s presidency and getting ‘thicker and thicker’ after Russian’s 2022 invasion… ..but I think that’s because I’ve not so much been hanging around the normal politicians / normal people side of things but more the fringes on the internet and watching their voices (which were mixed with echo’d propaganda) more and more and more in the last 10/11 years. In short playing the long game as it were. So not a direct, obvious way but rather getting in our heads bit by bit. [the provable bits I was mentioning were setting up fake opposition groups galore on Facebook, Tiktok and Twitter breathing Russian life into into the American black reparations movement (which was small before they got involved – a few Russians got sentences for their roles in some of it) – that’s one that comes to mind – and various divisive ads that there were prosecutions for in other areas – that’s all I was referring to with that part] The most obvious way to see the Russian meme warfare to change how we thinks about things was the influx of pro-Russian Orthodox memes in English were starting pouring in out of nowhere it seems around 2014/15 and growing in popularity since. Pushing for the trad-narratives – so much of it has had a slavic flavor – it’s been fascinating to watch progress over time.

Oh I just meant a few little things. I think what I mean is, whether or not Russia did or didn’t, the results we see are likely the same either way.
I’ve been noticing a lot of people on the right (and a few on the left) using what we’veĀ been calling “Putin talking points” for years now – since 2014 and escalating from before and through Trump’s presidency and getting ‘thicker and thicker’ after Russian’s 2022 invasion…
..but I think that’s because I’ve not so much been hanging around the normal politicians / normal people side of things but more the fringes on the internet and watching their voices (which were mixed with echo’d propaganda) more and more and more in the last 10/11 years.
In short playing the long game as it were. So not a direct, obvious way but rather getting in our heads bit by bit.
[the provable bits I was mentioning were setting up fake opposition groups galore on Facebook, Tiktok and Twitter breathing Russian life into into the American black reparations movement (which was small before they got involved – a few Russians got sentences for their roles in some of it) – that’s one that comes to mind – and various divisive ads that there were prosecutions for in other areas – that’s all I was referring to with that part]
The most obvious way to see the Russian meme warfare to change how we thinks about things was the influx of pro-Russian Orthodox memes in English were starting pouring in out of nowhere it seems around 2014/15 and growing in popularity since. Pushing for the trad-narratives – so much of it has had a slavic flavor – it’s been fascinating to watch progress over time.
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