non-citizen voting is a red herring

non-citizen voting is a red herring

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“It’s not about the blacks – HEY look over here at those illegal immigrants – why, THEY’RE probably getting fake IDs and droves and they’re going to upset the political balance!” But that just hasn’t happened.

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Besides which, faking a Photo ID is just as easy as faking a non-photo ID. If there WAS some kind of massive campaign by illegal immigrants to change the political balance of power, it’d just be a different type of fake id wouldn’t it?

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Think it logically though: It’s been just another fear campaign.

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Of course, perhaps all the studies were biased and all of the Federal judges are in the pockets of the Obama administration in order to guarantee votes for Hillary Clinton. Of course that’s always possible too.

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But from personal experience only: I’m from New Jersey. Political corruption is strongest at the local level. It’s less strong at the county level – more visibility. Less strong at the state level – more visibility. I don’t know about the federal level but if the pattern is the same, the states would be more corrupt than the federal by default.

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Yeah it was something like that. I’m not surprised it continues either: Civil Rights for black Americans was only fully granted in 1965.

There’s people alive and well (and in power still) that remember “the days before” and would like to get them back again.

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The bakers is the same idea. You’re serving the public. Once you serve the public, you have to abide by certain laws.

If they were baking a private cake in their private home and not selling it using federal monies and not running a business subject to federal laws, sure, they could do what they wanted.

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There’s no proof of a massive voter fraud EVER TAKING PLACE among non-citizens in US elections.

But your view is fixed. Maybe mine is too. Thing is, voter discrimination has been going on for a very long time in the USA.

How many times have illegal immigrants shifted the vote?

I don’t know of any.

But, you got your logic, I got mine.

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Maybe there’s no corruption happening at the state levels and everybody’s playing perfectly fair. That’d be nice.

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I think you have the beginnings of an excellent article there.

The only correction I’d make of Pepe is that he was bubbling around with his Hitler form even before Trump announced he was running. But otherwise, seems accurate.

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Pepe was just “replacement average person”, usually just a sad frog, relateable. Then he got an edge and the “feels good” man that came from it became the substitution for the liberal left, with pepe representing the right.

Amazing though how he started off originally: this comic is the origin of the ‘feels good man’, which morphed through meme culture into its own character.

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Oh I don’t take Sargon seriously. He weaves a creative narrative and has a loyal following and has a lot of supporters, but it has NWO undertones (and overtones) which inspires a certain kind of thinking that I’m not crazy about.
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I suppose I’m biased. When I was growing up, I had a neighbor who was very entertaining. He would talk about the Trilateral Commission with much gusto and link together all of the false narratives that weave through our news, schools, governments and all of the groups of people that most benefited from it. It was entertaining and it *did* help me mistrust the first news article I see and look for contrasting views to get a balanced opinion, but between him being on meds for mental disorders, and my own experiences in school and work and those of others who work in government and the news at the bumbling ineptitude and scrambling that REALLY takes place in these organizations… that the likelihood of a global conspiracy is rather small. At the same time, it’s true that media campaigns are issued that are deceptive, so keeping both eyes out is wise as is looking at multiple perspectives.
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So, I have an immediate bias against the “guy who has it all figured out”, even if he speaks with a british accent, calmly and rational sounding. Then again, I’ve also gained a bias against BBC, which is a shame because I’m a big of an Anglophile at heart But their news is VERY slanted, as is ours in the USA.
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 Thing is, it’s too pat, too clear, too .. perfect. No room for the real messiness of the world and the stupidity that is ‘people’.

What do we see as ‘the people’? We see the final results and we can piece them together into our own narratives.

But what REALLY happens in organizations that are looking to stay relevent? They scramble for personal power, raises, bump heads with others, rushing through to meet deadlines, not always paying close attention to their accuracy… meanwhile the ONLY member that seems polishes, is the public relations people – and their narratives are always some kind of false.

This disappointed me about the USA and Britain though. Recently a new meme was showing the propaganda commercials made by a private company in Iraq. So, I found one of my more trusted sources (csm) and there it was, way back in 2004 they were writing about it.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0513/p11s02-woiq.html

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