no. there’s variety in every age range.
the supposed genZ dichotomy can be summarized as :
furry vs gamer
and then you have the fe mboi gamer subtype etc and a lot of it is just injokes and mock battles. Discord people call Twitter people what Twitter people call TikTok people but it’s stereotyping that falls apart quickly upon the smallest inspection of the communities.
I have a 16 yr old ne phew and I’d been trying to stay ahead of him in internet subcultures since he was 6.5 getting on ROB LOX, so I learned a lot but most of it’s guesswork on my part.
Fascinating watching the interactions though — and I love the levels of irony I see in GenZ humor – some of it anyway — where it can “look like” edgy late millennial” political humor but it’s really mocking what it seems to be advocating — but then sometimes it is what it says it is and thankfully I don’t have to write a paper on this.
G enZ _is_ a pretty BIG generation in numbers and every generation redefines itself by shredding some of the previous generations things.
SO if it’s a disposing of previous gen’s bisexual in favor of pan in order to better reflect a fluidic gender understanding, and if they’re trying to make the realm more approachable for all ages, I can see their desire to make it less “hey everybody it’s flesh and leather!”.
I mean, as a generation they were innu ated with strong anti-gay messages from the political right online everywhere they went so I can see where a desire to be less “hey look shock value!” and more “we’re celebrating, thanks” messaging might be more representative of their generation.
Or I could be making this up as I go and have no idea what I’m talking about which is also likely.
It’s just speculation. I was only involved in que er stuff for a short time – 1990/91, a zillion years ago, at the start of pronoun usage (which I supported then and now – I think it was just ze and zhe but I forget), my first encounters with otherkin (elfenkind and a few others), the level below me was called a “safe space” for a group I wasn’t a part of and that was a-ok. We had shared showers and it all seemed perfectly normal then and now.
So it was all Pink Triangle then and “we have to make sure condoms and dental dams go out to prevent the spread of AIDS”.
There was also the debates about whether there was racism in white male gay groups, which was an issue both 30 years ago and recently, etc.
I considered myself “omnise xual” or “panse xual” at the time – I’m sorry omni didn’t stick as a word. I don’t remember gender fluidity talked about much outside of chimeras from digital feminist theory or whatever it was called. (it was a zillion years ago).
So, that’s my bias. I don’t know how I conveyed myself but that’s my grounding.
Right now, I’ve got a few Z’s in my life – most prominently my nepwawe ahew – and he’s been mostly on the “dank meme” side of things. Watching the growing racism /sexism / homophobia / ‘white pride’ stuff grow in his generation has been hard to witness — and yet I noticed a lot of it was of the “wait, you are aren’t really racist are you?” “it’s just ironic” variety but some actually meant it.
Then there’s the ones that followed me back in Vine days and continued following me on Instagram, etc. — and among furries I’d noticed some of the same anti-sentiment — a bit of self-degrading humor, mostly as protective measure against the onslaught of memetic hate, even if “just ironic” they get.
I agree with you completely.
I wasn’t advocating that line of thinking, just trying to understand it.
I watched a sanitizing process happen among furries from around 2010-today, in particular around 2012-14 where there was an absolute explosion of GenZ appearing online en masse (I call them the Minecraft generation) and many embraced “furry fandom” and proceeding to make it kid-friendly themselves, probably simply by virtue of being young.
I don’t know if that’s a similar thing that’s happening in much of GenZ but I do notice a lot of “anti gatekeeping” pushback in all fields, a “what I do looks like what you do but what I did isn’t exactly what you do” sentiment. A good example of that in entertainment is .. oh what’s her name.. she had the green and black hair but did a look change recently — anyway, she’s a good example of that sentiment.
The mumble rappers pushing against the gangsta rap, having emotions and sadness and happiness – rather than the “be tough looking at all costs” of prior rap artists .. the constant reinvention of image…
it’s been a fascinating generation to watch grow up online as they define themselves amongst the chaos of modern society. I think it’s wonderful that there are many subcultures available where they can help themselves have their own support groups… and yet that can also end up being isolating, so I dunno.
I hope you find solutions to the issue you face where everybody wins and I believe it’s possible.