Need a better “we” here because I already care. I don’t need convincing. I can’t answer the question as posed. Sorry.

Need a better “we” here because I already care. I don’t need convincing. I can’t answer the question as posed. Sorry.

 

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It’s a truth you speak here. White privilege can be explained simply:

It’s better to be white in the USA than not.

It’s ridiculous that it’s that way but it is. I’m ‘white’. I can’t say I got ‘special favors’ but at the same time, I *can* get special favors without having to beg for special programs.

Shouldn’t be that way but it is. That’s white privilege.

For example: Let’s say I want to get ahead in business connections. Someone who believes white people are oppressed may say, “Oh, but special programs for minority business owners”.

Ok. But why? What can white people do that’s easier?

I can make friends with someone who has a membership at the local golf course. I can get in. Play a few rounds. Tell my story. Make a few connections. Get fed work.

If I’m minority? Can’t.

That’s one simple example.

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Committed less or caught less? From a distance is it the white guy who is committing the crime or the black dude? It must be the black dude. White guy escapes.

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Ah, you’re speaking murder. Well that’s very specific at least in the table of potential crimes.

I’d attribute it to cramped shit neighborhoods, where hopelessness is multigenerational, no outside helpful resources on the ‘outside’. Your police are generally white and don’t understand what it’s like. Your friends IN the neighbrhood with you want you to stay there. [this is also true in blue-collar white neighborhoods – I come from one… and they don’t cheer on your success but want you to fail and stay at the bar with them]… and dozens of other potential factors.

These aren’t excuses but you’re looking at the final tally and not what leads up to the tally.

In short, it’s not that you’re wrong but it’s not very helpful.

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Nope. They do. But do you deny that people are also products of their environment? That there are constraints upon such free choices available in the pool of possibilities to them, as long as they accept the roles scripted for them to perform?

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There’s different levels of free in free agency.

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Example: Get in your jet and come over here so we can have a beer together. Bring your concubine too. Let’s party.

Can’t? Ah, but some can.

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There’s more crimes than that. People are in prison for child support. People are in prison for drug offenses. People are in prison for rape.

How’d they get into prison?

What process did they go through?

What eyes spotted the crimes?

Is justice color blind?

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eh, weak. So many missing steps in the process. I don’t KNOW how many crimes are committed that aren’t caught. Do you?

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If you believe there’s a 1:1 correlation between “crime committed : criminals caught and put in jail” then .. .well, good for you. I’d love to have that much faith in the system as it is as you do.

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Going with the rare isn’t convincing. Go with the common. Most people aren’t in jail for murder. Most people are in jail for other things. How can you bring up a rare thing and use it to explain the common?

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It’s ridiculous because the population is not evenly distributed across the nation in equivalent environments with equivalent policing procedures. It’s statistical games you’re playing. Not at all convincing or logical or rational.

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You’ve invented imaginary people to make a point and you can’t see how ridiculous that is?

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Let’s go to “all other offenses:”

All other offenses (except traffic):
2,602,939
66.9% White
30.4% Black

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Now you want to argue an isolated statistical black person is a higher percentage of criminal within than white? or something like that?

You have to take into account population density. Policing procedures. Are these things happening WITHIN ghetto neighborhoods with conditions not equal to, say, white suburbia?

etc.

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You gotta do better than playing statistics games. All the marvelous copy/paste work you did, utterly wasted and unconvincing. Sorry.

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