My take is more of a sociological pov, noticing people movements and such.

I’m thinking cognitive structures more than a semantic viewpoint.

Certainty comes into play as well.

This doesn’t invalidate what you’re saying – and invalidation isn’t what I’m striving for.

Rather, I’m putting it in a broader context beyond the semantics and into subcultures arguing over “is/isn’t”, “better/worse”, “exist/not exist”…

My take is more of a sociological pov, noticing people movements and such.

On an individual basis? believe/abelieve what you like :)

In short, what looks like Apologetics for atheism from an outsiders POV, likely _is_ apologetics, behaviorally speaking.

Apologetics was once the realm of religions only but has extended itself as an expression methodology into atheism: the social movement, which is one of the things that gives some of the trappings and appearances of traditional religions.

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