My first experience with GEB was back in 1990.

*why* is am I getting hit with these books that I *know* should read, that people recommend to me to read, that I never read? haha

My first experience with GEB was back in 1990. Hampshire College. I saw GEB in the school bookstore and *really* wanted to take this course on it.

But it was full.

I don’t regret what I took instead but i *really* wanted this course because when I picked up GEB and tried to read it myself at the time, I just got overwhelmed (and was spending most of my time investigating this thing called the ‘internet’).

Always on my back burner, waiting for me to read it ‘someday’.

Maybe it’s time.




I avoid reading at length but when I do, I’m “all in” and I _will_ finish at least one reading through.

A few months ago it was this tome:…/dp/1444146602
which many say was ‘dry’ but I didn’t find it dry It successfully tied together a diverse set of basic linguistics in a cohesive whole. He didn’t elaborate: he just said it “like it is”. I was especially excited about the point where metaphors begin in grammar *prior* to their explosion in semantics. It helped confirm for me one of the problems I’ve had about the way science writing is done: removed from reality, anthropomorphizing verb-y, active, moving systems into simple noun person subjects that can be treated ‘as if’ they were living, breathing entities, but are not… and the delusions in thinking this can cause.

I’m _hoping_ that whatever I’ve learned on my own – the same stuff that made reading zataomm easy to read last night (when at one time it would’ve taken me much much longer), *might* make me ready for GEB.

I hope so. I think I just might be ready.


Yeah, I read the Wolfram book and it was really good. I analogized it to programmed knitting machines and the patterns stemming out from that. Good stuff. I *did* see _some_ issues with it (a part he’s missing for it to be complete) but for what it is, it’s really really good.


I suspect I’ll be picking your brain once I *think* I have a grasp on something in it so that I can learn through someone who is more intimate than I. I will likely say stupid things as anybody who is new to something who proclaims himself the sudden expert may do… and I tend to be ‘that guy’ who does that.


The usual way I read a book for me is:
I find an enthusiast of the book and have them summarize it for me in whatever way they see fit. Then I ask questions and they respond.

This works for most books.

Some books though, don’t work well with that. Nobody would ever tell me anything about ZATAOMM except that I need to read it. And, they were right.


I read the overview of the book where he gives a summary of each chapter: : sounds like topology and algorithms galore. I think I’ll like this. Wait: I know I will. and… i expect I’ll get good and stuck at a lot of it




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