hat’s why I’m a big fan of the Internet. Kids are teaching themselves, for better or worse, from online, much more than anything they’re learning in school.
Lots of good knowledge and lots of misinformation. They’ll just have to sort it out for themselves.
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Agreed. I remember being smart as a kid and i see kids today are smart. I believe in minimally interfering guidance and teaching. Lessons present themselves and that’s when I speak up. I have certain basics I believe in: importance of friendship, watch out for bullshit both in society and in yourself, stuff like that.
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I disagree with you about dysphoria. You must remember moments when you were young of looking around and seeing bullshit, going through depressive periods and stuff like that. If it was true for you, its likely true for most kids.
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This to me is where gender dysphoria meets up with all the dysphorias: “Who am I?” “Why am I unhappy?” “What’s wrong with me?” and puzzling it out as best as possible and trying to come up with an answer.
I see no reason that there WOULDN’T necessarily be cases where there’s a gender dysphoria possible in children, just as much as some children have dysphorias about other issues.
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from John r:
” Never take responsibility for another person’s emotions.
Learn how to spot a socio-emotional “vampire”.
Don’t let anyone borrow your bike. Of they need it that bad, just give it to them.
If someone tries to mug you, try to offer them something other than your wallet, like maybe your weed.
Sage advice.”
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Dude, we’re like same with that shit. “Never take responsibility for another person’s emotions”. I’ve said and written those exact words. We must’ve been influenced by the same sources somewhere along the line.
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I learned it somewhere in the early 80s as a kid. I wonder if it’s part of the positive psychology movement, the “I’m ok / you’re ok” / “Scripts people live” type of stuff?
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It was in all the kids’ tv shows I saw in the late 70s/early 80s.. .and posters all over school and stuff…. a book my grandmother was reading that sat on the toilet and I read as a kid called “Scripts people live” or something like that… how we’re all just roleplaying and stuff… influential to my way of thinking.
I’ve been going through a process of tracing back the sources of concepts that influenced my way of thinking: some of them have been tough to find.
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We’ve been in a phase of “put away the blocks and start learning to read” by 3.5/4 yrs old for a while, standardized school stuff… we have to compete with the world and are falling behind and have to start young… type of thing.
Pisses me off tbh. You get one shot of being a kid.
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Oh kids today are fine John. They’re no different than we were. The way people deal with kids has changed along with whatever’s parentally or educationally fashionable at the time, but kids are still kids.
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Ah you’re lucky. I wanted to go to one of those. I believe in that type of education. Montessori is in that family of school types and there’s many others. I read Summerhill when I was 14 yrs old along with Unschooling and “Why Johnny can’t read” at my public library.
From that point on, I understood why school as it was was pissing me off: they were doing it all wrong, which was my gut feeling all thorugh school, but seeing it confirmed just cemented it.
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I got a scholarship to a tiny private school in 9th grade which got me away from the hellish public school system I was in in New jersey.
That private school was K-12, had a total of 200 students.
It was fantastic. Not perfect mind you, but it was great for me.
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It really was: I had planned to come back every year and visit. I graduated in 1990.
In 1991, the school board shut it down, surprising everybody, after 130 years of operation. I was the 2nd to last graduating class.
So, it might as well have never existed. Strange feeling; almost fantasy-like.
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It’s way better than the Paretto principle. One of the big mistakes people make with it is trying to eliminate the 80 and focus on the 20… the thing is, your 20, if you eliminate the 80, is going to have its OWN 80/20.
In short, it’s like a hologram: You JUST can’t get rid of the crap
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Weird having a childhood school just… gone. For years I was haunted by the fact that some doors that are closed can’t ever be opened again. Then I realized what a freedom that was.
In NJ, ALL the public schools had asbestos in them. My basement growing up, which I spent a lot of time in had asbestos around the heading pipes. It would crumble and dust clouds would be all around me while I was playing.
Before we sold the house (I was 30), we took down all the asbestos. Just a hankerchief around the face… meanwhile the neighbors across the street had spacemen taking out theirs.
We just snuck it in the garbage. I’m o*cough*cough*k.
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Nope. Just held my breath. Most asbestos problems were from ppl working under brakepads for 40+ years, not from asbestos wrappings around heating pipes.
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yeah. I don’t think there was a rash of asbestos related respitory issues among them either. It was certain professions and even then, it wasn’t very common. Bad enough to make illegal? Probably. But Asbestos really is a wonder material.
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