Knowledge of self comes from both without and within.


Knowledge of self comes from both without and within.

In structured environments, (work, home, school, society, family, friends, within conversations) people often know who they are, and are ‘being’ who they are at the same time.

Does awareness of self (self-knowledge) abruptly stop the process of “be”ing? While I am thinking about “Who Am I?”, do I stop the “Who”ing process?

Much of knowledge of self consists in knowing one’s roles. A role is part of the “who”, and part of the “be”.

If I am a parent, I both know my role as parent and -am- my role as parent. If I am a computer programmer, I know my role as computer programmer, and I -am- my role as computer programmer.

So, this proposition holds true in structured environments, within limits.

Does it hold true in greater circles? Can I know that I am a citizen, and also -be- a citizen? Definitely.

I think the key to the combination of knowledge and being at the same time, is AWARENESS.

When you are PRESENT, not trapped in the past or fiddling around with the future, and engaged in whatever you are engaged in at the present, and knowing what you are doing and who you are, and how others see you, then that is a case where we -can- know who we are, and be who we are at the same time.”

“In concise words, tell us how the idea that we cannot know who we are and be who we are at the same time can be overcome.”

Mine is entry 218.

[this is the response I received:
_We agree that we can know and be who we are “within limits” as in being and knowing a conscious role from our perspective. What allows for this state of simultaneous being and knowing is that the role is a conscious phenomenon, so that the union of being and knowing in terms of role is contingent on comparison. For example, according to John the role of a writer is to write books (i.e. conscious definition), and John is writing books and aware of it (i.e. conscious observation); so John knows his role, and he is being his role. However, it does not follow that any of our roles actually correlate to who we are as in fundamental level of being. Therefore, though we can know and be who we are in a limited sense (i.e. conscious roles), it does not follow from this limited sense that we can actually know and be who we are.

In order to overcome this problem of being and knowing, you need to show how our consciousness actually correlates to who we are as in fundamental level of being._]

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