John Tryon I call myself agnostic but I’m not really. You’re talking about a “right to believe” But I don’t really understand belief. I understand degrees of certainty How certain are you that something is true Also what is true and what is not true in a statement These I understand I understand contractual social statements : we believe in the Father Almighty maker of heaven and Earth etc. It’s a declaration of social Unity, and a deviation from the Declaration means exclusion from the group or some kind of Rehabilitation But none of it answers for me the question of “belief” I think I figured mine out Though. There’s a notion of the Bayesian brain. Bayesian inference you have your prior beliefs and if evidence comes along that updates your prior beliefs then you update your beliefs that leaves you with your posterior beliefs That’s how it’s supposed to work But I never understood Bayesian because my brain is in a continual doubt mode I even doubt my own doubt which allows me to believe certain things Even that’s on a contingency basis, that is there is room for – what they call the god of the gaps but I don’t like that phrase – And a little bit of “if it doesn’t harm anything then do what you will” So I can’t say that I know what belief even is. I have a feeling my brain is so noisy that it overwhelms my priors – at least my conscience awareness of them – and so I’m in a continual doubting mode. I turn to deduction frequently. If your organization wants a right to make a statement, as long as that statement does not result in harm – through actions carried out based on those statements, by all means.

John Tryon I call myself agnostic but I’m not really.

You’re talking about a “right to believe”

But I don’t really understand belief.

I understand degrees of certainty

How certain are you that something is true

Also what is true and what is not true in a statement

These I understand

I understand contractual social statements : we believe in the Father Almighty maker of heaven and Earth etc.

It’s a declaration of social Unity, and a deviation from the Declaration means exclusion from the group or some kind of Rehabilitation

But none of it answers for me the question of “belief”

I think I figured mine out Though.

There’s a notion of the Bayesian brain.

Bayesian inference you have your prior beliefs and if evidence comes along that updates your prior beliefs then you update your beliefs

that leaves you with your posterior beliefs

That’s how it’s supposed to work

But I never understood Bayesian because my brain is in a continual doubt mode

I even doubt my own doubt which allows me to believe certain things

Even that’s on a contingency basis, that is there is room for – what they call the god of the gaps but I don’t like that phrase –

And a little bit of “if it doesn’t harm anything then do what you will”

So I can’t say that I know what belief even is.

I have a feeling my brain is so noisy that it overwhelms my priors – at least my conscience awareness of them – and so I’m in a continual doubting mode.

I turn to deduction frequently.

If your organization wants a right to make a statement, as long as that statement does not result in harm – through actions carried out based on those statements, by all means.

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