I’ve noticed a lot of people (outside of Dr Who groups) that have been expressing negative opinions turn out to _not_ be fans of the show but are instead using it as “the same as” some other comic book thing or as a launchpad for whatever their political opinion of the day is. I have to explain about regeneration and what makes *this* different from _their_ examples. So far I’ve been convincing them and I enjoy an opportunity to defend my show.

I’ve noticed a lot of people (outside of Dr Who groups) that have been expressing negative opinions turn out to _not_ be fans of the show but are instead using it as “the same as” some other comic book thing or as a launchpad for whatever their political opinion of the day is. I have to explain about regeneration and what makes *this* different from _their_ examples. So far I’ve been convincing them and I enjoy an opportunity to defend my show.

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Bakula’s too much like me in real life. Same problem I had with Quantum Leap, which I had to watch because THEY cancelled Doctor Who and I had to find other Time travel shows.

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I found him hard to watch because every “gee i don’t know” hemming and hawing reminded me of myself. I didn’t want to see ‘me’ up there, so it was far too awkward, like having your 7th grade school play performance broadcast to millions. Great respect for him as an actor but as for role models, there was no “up” to go to for me. It was same level.

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e’s always had a bit of a boys-are-this, girls-are-that way about him. But I think it’s more that he can’t fathom how it will work yet. If her performance is is good, which I’m expecting/hopeful it will be, I think we’ll be hearing different from Peter later on. I don’t think he’s hard-nosed, just can’t ‘see it’ yet.

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Example from my childhood. Wonder Woman? Role model. Didn’t mean I wanted to wear her outfit because I didn’t. But did she encapsulate a lot of the virtues I thought were admirable? Yes. Role model.

Incredible Hulk: I could relate. Role model? Not the Hulk part. But I identified with the Hulk more than Wonder Woman.

That’s the difference to me between role models and “is it relatable”?

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I’m wondering about that as well. Will her character just be “Male Doctor Who but with round things on the chest?” or bring something unique to the role?

Each Doctor introduces something new while bringing in a lot of the old. Amalgam of past while also being novel. It’s one of the things I love about the character. This added dimension should be good for the character. I’m looking forward to it.

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A look at the gender political environment over the past few years, and it seems that a large segment of the human population *is* stuck in the 1950s. Unfortunately, the best that can work for them is a masculine female, easing them into a gender-equality mindset slowly.

But honestly? I’m hoping for weird alien with an alien morality that gives litle “teases” that make the Doctor seem almost human at times, but then shifts gears to make you go “wait, no, oh ok, that’s right. Alien here”.

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*I’m* hoping the show confuses the *heck* out of everybody. It should be easy:

The Doctor’s archetype is: human-ish nerd hero. A female nerd and male nerd characteristics are wide and varied yet not so different ultimately. Follow that lead and all will be well.

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Trying to find good human nerd/geeky female to fill out the other side of the Doctor’s personality. Let’s see: I’m going through this list here, and there’s no question this is an effective list of female geek archetypes. I’m leaning towards Lisa Simpson with a dash of Dana Scully and maybe a hint of Daria for her dry humor moments.

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But those are too American. hm. I’m not well studied on British female nerd archetypes though.

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It was time for the Doctor to regenerate into somebody *other than* another white British male nerd. Now it’s a white British female nerd. Not much of a change to me but it’s something.

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They’ve been talking about a female Doctor for decades now. It’d have happened sooner if the show wasn’t cancelled. They’re just catching up now.

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Doctor Who is always full of surprises, even after all these years. It’s one of the things I love about the show. It doesn’t get ‘stuck’

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Then stop watching or complain online if you like. I didn’t like the change to Colin Baker (I started with #5). I was 12 yrs old. But I had no one to complain to, the only Doctor Who fan I knew. So I just grumbled to myself.

Wasn’t until 1989 and I got online that I saw other Doctor Who fans in real life. Never became a Whovian but always loved the show. After 15 years of suffering with Time Cop and Quantum leap, Doctor Who coming back – and better than it was – was a gift. You can grumble if you like but it’s ridiculous.

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Doctors usually change their outfits a few times so I wouldn’t expect the jacket and boots to stay. I suspect she’ll play it a little more serious because female comediennes get a harder time than female drama.

Tennant was both masculine and feminine – it’s one of the things that made his Doctor unique I don’t know if anybody could pull it off in quite the same way as he did.

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awesome we’re the same time frame. I was 1980, 8 yrs old with grandmother in New Jersey USA. All alone, no Daleks in the playground for me as a kid ’cause NOBODY knew what Doctor Who was.

She’d been into the show for years before I was. No idea how long.

Loved Peter Davidson but he was my first. I ended up catching up to all the watchable old episodes in the 1980s during marathons and midnight showings. Never did the books or audio stuff. Always seemed proud of myself for *not* having a scarf or a little toy TARDIS: I wasn’t going to become “one of them”, as much as I wanted to be. [I’d see the “Whovians” during pledge drives and be both envious and scornful of them].

Lost some interest during Colin Baker and hardly watched Sylvester because I didn’t like the wide-shots. I tried though but like a typical teenager I was critical of my childhood shows. “Oh it’s getting too kiddy now”.

But what a shock when it was cancelled. Still i figured it would come back SOMEDAY. Too good of a concept to abandon forever.

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I had a small 19″ TV and I’m nearsighted. Couldn’t do all the squinting and following the characters around was hard to do. Same reason I didn’t like Peter Davidson’s last episode, even though it was his and a fan favorite.

I loved McCoy’s outfit and his personality though. Just not the filming style.

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Here’s what I think: the BBC is as smart or smarter than us about marketing.

What works in the 2011-> era? Get people riled up and upset. Get people who wouldn’t otherwise care to get mad. They watch, in order to be pissed at it. They talk about it. Buzz.

The more buzz, the more viewers, the more capturing of eyes.

“Good publicity or bad publicity is still publicity”.

So for every negative post about Doctor Who? They cheer. For every positive post about Doctor Who? They cheer.

That said, I don’t think it’s the only reason at all. The Doctor needed a change. He went from angry to feminine/male/sexy to youthful/fairytale to classic grumpy old tired of the bullshit.

So what next? Easy. Whatever gets people talking.

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peaking of that gif, I’m still waiting an oriental Doctor. I’d go with Chinese and do a lot of Confusius Say type shit. It’d play on the old stereotype nicely.

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People would bitch that it’s just the liberal leftist communist agenda and Doctor Who will be doomed after one more season. Oh wait.. that’s what they’re saying about Jodie Whittaker.

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know. I mean you don’t make a bad argument. I just don’t see Doctor Who as equivalent to other shows. I don’t read comics and most sci-fi/tantasy is junk to me. I’m very picky. So when I see comparisons they don’t seem valid to me.

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Possibly but I see it as very logical. I think they should have had a female doctor after Tennant or Smith. Feels a little “late” to me but I’ve been expecting a female Doctor for a long time now.

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Moffat had a fine run overall – although how many times can you go to the end of the Universe? and John Nathan Turner… I mean Russell Davis did a fine job in his time.

But untried and untested is what keeps it fresh. That’s an aspect of the show I always liked. It goes from excellent (Logopolis, Castrovalva, ) to wtf were they thinking (Snakedance) in just a few episodes.

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They’re NOT going to recreate the Tennant magic. Can’t. Gotta keep shifting.

Look at Pertwee. They stuck him on Earth. How the heck are you going to write stories for a time/space travelling alien while keeping him grounded?

Yet, it worked. It always ends up working somehow. Will it ever run as thin as it did in Colin Baker / Sylvester McCoy’s time, with dwindling budget and lack of BBC support?

Possibly. But with such a buzz created over Jodie Whittaker? It’s unlikely to happen.

When people stop caring about the show either way? That’s when it’s doomed.

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For that, keep posting how wrong they are for doing what they’re doing. It helps keep the show alive and lasting longer. The negativity keeps Doctor Who saved as much as having 10,000,000 drooling Tennant fangirls writing fan-fic.

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Girls have had 34 years of male Doctor to try to relate to. Boys had 34 years of male Doctor to try to relate to.

This is where the argument of equally ridiculous falls apart.

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If that works for you, sure. Wasn’t much for the Alien/Ailens thing although I saw one or both of them. I forget. I think they made another. Whatever. Most sci-fi/fantasy sucks so I don’t get too involved in most things.

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This is the 11/12 yr old kid who blamed Colin, the BBC and JNT equally. I hated the new titles, the clown suit, his attitude, and I think they changed the show format – longer or something. I remember thinking, “I’m 12 and they’re trying to appeal to EIGHT YEAR OLDS with this stuff. Maybe I’m getting too old for the show”.

Yet, no internet to complain to. Not a single friend who knew what a “Doctor Who” was. So, I just got over myself.

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He was already in Australia, in 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLAZkAgPkc

So next year. 2018. [Reference: Enemy of the World, Troughton ]

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Castrovalva but due to the physics of the space, I’m already on the inside.

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