It’s _because_ of consumer protection regulations for the environment that allows for American industry to ‘behave itself’.

There’s a flaw with this Sergio:

The idea that American industry is worse environmentally is just wrong, relative to the rest of manufacturing world.”

It’s _because_ of consumer protection regulations for the environment that allows for American industry to ‘behave itself’.

Remove the protections and the American industrial impact upon the environment will automatically change.

Business is amoral. Neither good nor evil. They’re not non-profit, so they’re profit.

Will the amorality turn into immorality or morality is up to whatever the law says is moral or immoral.

Change the laws and “free them up” and, well, we’ don’t know

You have been reaping the benefits of government regulations your whole life : so have I.

We don’t know what we’ll losing until it’s not there anymore.

A *careful* paring down of regulation redundancy is fine.

It’s when it’s “whatever happens happens, so long as there’s less regulations because regulations are all automatically bad because government” that there could be unforeseen issues that an intelligent people will watch for.

Unless you automatically trust the government and all corporations to automatically do the right thing always.’

Usually lawsuits force corporations to behave.

I worked for a pharmaceutical company for a few years. Doesn’t make me an expert (Schering-Plough).

Business is amoral.

Where do their morals come from? Lawsuits and regulations.

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I don’t expect the government to fix everything or laws. But certainly not corporations and “the magical free market”.

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You’ve never worked for a big corporation before then.

Leftists are wrong when they say “corporations are evil”
Right wingers are wrong when they say “the free market fixes everything because economics 101 says…”

What we’re told and what really happens is different and a lot of bullshit happens behind the scenes that people are kept from knowing.

Sounds normal.

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we have tomato farms right next door to my street. [I hear the cows mooing late at night], handpicked by illegals, shipped in trucks that end up in Wendy’s, McDonalds, Burger King and Taco Bell, to name a few of their clients.

The tomatoes roll off the large open trucks. The sides of some trucks say “organic”, some don’t, some have the names of companies.

When there’s a surplus of tomatoes, they dump them. That’s capitalism in action.

Milk producers are lucky: They get paid by the govt for that but other industries don’t get special contracts like that.

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Decentralization is no guarantee either though. Islands of power competing against each other, cooperation between “fake competitors” so they mutually benefit to the exclusion of others, etc – it’s a road the world’s been down before and it continues.

This is where I live. There’s a giant wildfire happening just south of here. They call it a “brushfire” lol. I can see and smell the smoke. It’s huge. Anyway, there’s farms around here but not so much by the fire, which is good, otherwise we’d be smelling marinara sauce, cooked potatoes, corn and fried oranges and grapefuit in the air….

The US govt supports capitalism first. That’s why they do it.

Private is authorized private by the government who makes the laws the private folks are located in.

No escaping that.

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It’s like saying, “I wish I was never born”. This is saying, “I wish I was never born into a society who is located on a landmass controlled by people who were alive before me and who made rules I don’t agree with”.

Can’t help causation. You were. I was.

You can change it, sure, or try.

But gotta get the causation right first.

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It’s possible to change things. I believe that. Sounds like you want different rules in place for everybody than the ones that currently exist.

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I don’t think that’s the case at all Sergio.
I think most people KNOW it’s all bullshit. It’s part of adulting, which can start happening when you’re 10 years old and realize the teacher has all the answers already in their book, or when you get ripped off by the local corner store and buy your candy, or start paying taxes, or start paying for education, or when you realize that resumes have nothing to do with getting a job….

most people just deal with it best they can. We’re all serfs doing the best we can and know the kings are wicked. They’ve never been good, just maybe “not as bad as the other guy”.

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