It’ll take a long time. Things don’t work quickly in the USA. But the damage will remain for a long time to come. Meanwhile, diehard supporters of his keep pointing to other people and avoiding what’s looking them right in the face – that we have an actual real President now and the election is over. The people who lost don’t matter as much as what’s happening day-to-day in real current life. .Part of the problem is parallel news streams. Each side doesn’t hear anything about what the other side is reading.

It’ll take a long time. Things don’t work quickly in the USA. But the damage will remain for a long time to come.

Meanwhile, diehard supporters of his keep pointing to other people and avoiding what’s looking them right in the face – that we have an actual real President now and the election is over. The people who lost don’t matter as much as what’s happening day-to-day in real current life.

.Part of the problem is parallel news streams. Each side doesn’t hear anything about what the other side is reading.

Well, I take statistics with a grain of salt. but I think overall it’s probably correct, just going by dwindling verbal support online from people who used to be gung ho just a few months ago still.

He’s the same as he’s always been. I first knew him in the 80s as a general contractor who built stuff and his company stiffed some local contractors out of payment. I know because I had to hear about it from them… a lot… it was annoying. [they put all their eggs in one basket even though they knew his reputation as a non-payer and lost their company]. That was when the Taj Mahal in Atlantic City NJ was being built.

Anyway, he’s never changed. He’ll just continue golfing on weekends and his family will manage his properties like they always have once he’s back to civilian life.

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I come from Central NJ [Roselle Park – you *might* have heard of it if you ever went on the Raritan Valley train – it passes through that town].

Yeah, he was always in the news. Most people who support him only heard of him 2.5-3 years ago and don’t realize “Oh he’s a successful businessman” is almost meaningless when you know about lifelong desire to be a Mafia don (unsuccessfully I might add… but he definitely idolized them]

I didn’t exist yet in the 60s – born in ’72 – but great to see someone who was ‘there’ during the same time as me and knows that my dislike for the guy has almost nothing to do with what people assume is the reason.

He’s just a ny/nj used car salesman (who did real estate instead of cars) with tacky tastes and I think it’s only people who grew up in that area really understand that his type of personality is as common as a pigeon in new york.. and usually best avoided.

The far right are more noise than power, although they have an excessive presence online, which is their playground.

They want impossible things: civil war in the US of white vs immigrants, white vs black, men vs women, etc – but the best they can do is get people arguing online which isn’t that hard of a feat really.

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Republicans in Senate have been jumping ship and more vocal about their opinions against him. As far as Republicans in the House, well, they don’t really matter as much as the Senate and they’re like a 3rd grade playground most of the time, although sometimes they get some surprising things to go through.

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They could but the moment Trump won the election, the far right has been declining in power in the US. If he *hadn’t* won, they’d be growing (because they grew from underground and temporarily have been accessing sentiments from the regular conservatives and amplifying them).

All that’s left is for them to keep providing distractions and hoping the moderate conservative base goes along with it.

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But the damage already caused will take a long time to unravel. Crippling a lot of federal agencies to support business interests will take a long time to heal.

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We’re in a Daddy phase so “strong leader / shut up and don’t argue back with Daddy” is going to be more popular in general. So there’s that. But until I start seeing far-right candidates showing up in local districts and gaining momentum, I’m not going to worry too much about a flip to the far right.

But it’s possible and yeah that’s a scary thought.

I’m glad you still have a position right now. I fear for agencies like yours and others over the next year or two. Recovery won’t start until long after normal budgets are approved, and normal budgets won’t be approved until there’s a change in government… so there’s at least a two year minimum timeframe and likely a couple more.

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My mother’s a retired county worker and like a lot of govt, they’re required to take the lowest bidder every year. Normal for a long time.

But what’s different now: Since the executive order closed off the ability of states to regulate their own insurance rules, who was the lowest bidder this year?

Some health insurance company that’s clearly a fly-by-night. The County wants her to change autopay to them by today, but she didn’t get the paperwork until Friday.

She calls that insurance company to change it, and they’re not ready. All she got was a southern woman telling her “don’t you worry about it honey you can ignore those papers coming in. we’ll call you when we’re ready to take the autopay – you’ll be fine”.

I fear her health insurance is doomed. Their website is a piece of crap, and I’m afraid to look into it beause I think I know what I’ll find.. and there’s nothing to be done.

They were the lowest bidder – and her near future situation is nothing compared to the levels of problems you guys are having.

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I’m hoping that the company will fly right and do the right thing — they have to support thousands of retired workers and clearly they weren’t ready to win the bid but they did.

Its one thing when a tiny print shop wins the bid for colored file folders, and they end up painting plain manila that leaks on everybody’s hands. No, this is at a different level.

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What gets me is that people won’t see the disaster happening where you’re working and in the other agencies that got severe death level cutbacks until budgets run out, programs end, results begin to show. Right now you’re scrambling and everybody’s scrambling… but what happens when there’s no more scrambling to be done?

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[I mean you see it where you’re working – I mean people outside whose lives are affected by these changes won’t be able to see them until there’s no longer anybody to help them]

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Thank you. Cultural told me everything I needed to hear. It reminds me of the altNatonalPark Twitter account situation where a number of agencies have inside people doing unofficial reporting, showing people ‘out here’ that yes, they’re still there. and yes they believe in their original missions. Thank you.

 

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