It is through diplomacy, discussion, humanism and secularism that peace can be achieved,

Well, I never finished college + the IRS begs to differ but then again, I know how to move what little $ I have around tongue emoticon but yes, I’m far from a peasant immigrant, although he gave a rather extreme example. From a worldwide economic/educational standpoint, I am an educated wealthy individual. I accept that and I’m rather glad for it. I’m grateful for privilege that’s thanks purely to happenstance of birth.

Anyway, I agree that religion dominance needs to be excised from politics. I don’t mind MILD inclusions of religion that exists within some governments – things like “under God” in the USA I don’t care if they stay or go, and swearing on the Bible stuff is silly tradition that can stay or go, and the inclusion of religious tradition in English education for example is hardly an issue but I’m sure ppl can argue for its removal if its bothersome to their personal whatevers.

English Common Law itself is Christian. No way of getting around it. It’s as Christian as Sharia is Islamic. But it’s the extremes that are at issue. In many ways, Sharia and Common Law are _mostly_ comparable legal systems.

[we just focus on extremes because, well, some of it is extreme]

But that’s where diplomacy comes into play. Diplomacy *is* secular _without_ requiring removal of religions. Diplomacy is not atheist. It is agnostic. It’s ignostic. It’s “don’t know, don’t care”. Human rights *do* have a historically Christian background, as secular humanism is the product of a Christian culture ultimately, as humanism itself is AND secularism and rationalism.

However, despite their roots, both secularism (separation of government and religious affairs) and humanism (scholarship) have grown to a point that they are accepted in most of the world as a “baseline” of “This Is Good” in nearly all cultures, whatever their dominating religion may be.

It is through diplomacy, discussion, humanism and secularism that peace can be achieved, regardless of the religious or irrelgiousness of the peoples involved.

That’s it’s power and strength: Not as a replacement-for, but a supplement-to

It remains powerful regardless of the religions or lack of.

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