That had to be some kind of neo-nestorian stuff.
What eras are you talking about here? Fall of constantiple was 1483 officially thanks to Sultan whats-his-face, who introduced a new brand of Islam that didn’t exist before: a “back to basics” similar to Protestant “back to basics” that started happening a century or so later…
…So if you’re speaking of post 1483, I might buy your argument but as soon as I hear nestorian christian, I just had to shake my head ’cause that was 1000+ years prior to that 21 yr old Sultan.
It is not raw impartial data, not that that’s REALLY possible in constructing history, but certainly worthy of the attempt.
He has a stance. He works backwards to collect evidence enough to support his claims. Then he builds a case forward to support his stance.
So, this raises my skeptical flags immediately. I’ll talk to YOU about it, but not watch a documentary or a video showing proofs.
Scientific method does not work well with history. Scientists are notoriously bad historians.
And yes, I want your opinion and commentary. I want it filtered through a human brain who researched, saw this stuff, thought about it, came to conclusions.
THEN, if his impact on YOU seems reasonable enough, I might consider going more deeply into it.
I went to a school (Hampshire College, Amherst MA, never finished), that had a strong film dept. They taught people how to make documentaries.
I didn’t go to those classes but my friends did.
Do you know the easiest people to manipulate and convince? Intellectuals. Academics. That’s why I prefer to go through people and their interpretations first and THEN go back. Maybe then I can skip the documentary and go straight to the source data myself.
Doesn’t mean I won’t ever watch another one, but I have a ‘thing’ about documentaries attempting to “prove” something to me.Get lost in their maze of logic and evidence and at the end, you’re looking at a single possibility with no other available options.But have you heard of the distinction between Accuracy and Precision?My bias is here: A high precision argument can be low accuracy. The more facts and evidence doesn’t necessarily bolster or necessitate a conclusion.Given a choice of two errors, I err on the side of “High accuracy, low precision”. It’s closer to the bullseye.But High precision and low accuracy means missing the bulleye completely.
What people DO WITH IT, is something different.
If they enact them into a LAW, instead of spiritual guidance, and then make it POLITICAL, _then_ we have something we can talk about.
There is Islam, which was a religious and cultural phenomenon that lasted from its beginnings up through Mehmet 2.Then, when Mehmet 2 threw out the Christians altogether and converted the churches to mosques and decided to go “By The Book”…. THAT’S when a different Islam came on the world stage.Islam the 1st was organic. Mehmet brought in something different that did not have, in my mind, the cultural continuity of the organic Islam because of its strictness and absolutism.Islam was not an absolutist religion in quite the same way until Mehmet 2. What he did changed everything.
I know it sounds like a weird way to view history, but I look for continuities of peoples and behaviors.
21 martyrs beheaded by ISIS on February 14, 2015, who have been inserted into the Coptic Synaxarium, (the book of Saints for the Coptic (oriental) Orthodox Church, are martyrs.While I am agnostic (and wasn’t ‘in communion with’ the Copts when I -was- Orthodox), nevertheless, these things they take very cautiously and seriously.
These 21 people beheaded were victims of a radical group of people called ISIS and by other names as well, who claim to be holders of Islam but they are not.
Yet, these are people who were killed simply because they were Christian. So this, to me is a big deal, because 1000 years from now, the icon will STILL be copied and repainted by somebody and remembered.
To me, those people that canonized these 21 ppl are making a stance that for them is for *all time*. No wiggle room. No questions. No doubts. It’s part of their faith. It’s not _mine_ but once you start to see history in 1000 year chunks the world looks a little different.