Information doesn’t lead to wisdom though. Information doesn’t care about its contents : we do.

Information doesn’t lead to wisdom though. Information doesn’t care about its contents : we do.

Hence: 4chan is information as is an Encyclopedia of Science. Equally information. Tons of it everywhere. Drowning in it. So, we pick and chose.

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Should is a moral stance. Of course language evolves. But without knowing its roots, we can lose vision/wisdom/sight of where we’re going.

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For example, your definition of wisdom below, is most _definitely_ related to 13th century usage:

“c. 1300, “something seen in the imagination or in the supernatural,”

It’s of those things “beyond”. Your usage is in the same family of usage, following the same path as that original usage.

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If you don’t like that I like etymology as one of my many tools for wisdom, that’s ok. But say it like that. It’s not part of your recipe book for wisdom but it is one of the ingredients in mine.

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lol whether you’re serious or not, I actually have friends that hate when I bring up etymology. But I usually use it to counteract their obedience to modern dictionaries. :P You’re not a dictionary slave thankfully though.

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I’m trying to “add to”, not subtract from. My role is always supportive ultimately, not combat

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There you go with the shoulds again. I like history and observing language morph and change over time. I also like coming up with my own definitions because dictionaries usually suck and the people who write them have their own agendas in there. [the oxford english dictionary is FULL of very clear bias and agenda but so were the first English dictionaries].

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The issue I see is when people seek absolutes where there’s more often variety.

I bring up etymology because it brings an interesting facet to a discussion. I sometimes bring up logic because it brings an interesting facet to a discussion. I express my opinions for the same reasons.

But rarely am I putting my foot down in some fashion as “I have the final say”. I’m here for the discourse.

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The issue with shoulds is when they’re applied in an authoritarian fashion. There can also be a passive-aggressive tone to them as well. Maybe such things don’t matter to some people, but for some people they do.

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Up to you. I was giving my opinion.

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Communication is more than intention.

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Modal verbs tend to get on my nerves. Pet peeve – much like etymology may be for you.

Anyway, we’re not fighting a bear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_verb

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modality refresher: [I needed one myself ’cause I forgot] :


(1) According to [a set of rules, wishes, beliefs,…] it is [necessary, possible] that [the main proposition] is the case. ”

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Oh of course. I just feel that there’s more elegant ways to express it. I don’t care much for should / ought / must / mustn’t / etc because they’re kind of naked and a little forceful. I prefer a more nuanced approach.

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modals are passive aggressive as well. They’re the classic schoolteacher passive-aggressive format.

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In any case, I’ll let you have your should.
There. I trumped your passive-aggressive with a stronger one

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Modalities are more about impressing beliefs than feelings though.

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I prefer to lift people up rather than talking down. I don’t get a superior satisfaction from it. I don’t tease cats (except occasionally tickling a cat’s foot and watching them shake it) or dogs or kids.

Of course if someone comes at me aggressively, I’ll put up my sword and fight but with an eye towards friendship not superiority. At least, that’s my ideal. I cant’ say I always live up to my ideals.

Well, I have to leave you here but I’ll return to this to respond further tomorrow. Late here. Good intellectual stuff as always

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I don’t believe in fate, just responses to conditions. There’s always conditions one finds themselves in. But I don’t think there’s predetermination involved.

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It’s sometimes true with workers, although more and more people are becoming entepreneurs and not staying on the hamster wheels for long, but one area where there’s STILL that level on a large institutional scale, is school.

Remember kids in 6th grade that had breakdowns? Or you just didn’t see anymore and there were rumors?

The suicide attempts? The bad behavior?

I believe a lot of adolescent behavior is directly correlated to being in a school system that exhibits all of the things you mentioned for workplace.

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