In short, diplomacy. Superman and Lex Luthor need to sit at a table and have a chat with some coffee and snacks for a few hours and sort this stuff out.

Wow! Well if I said well, you said it fantastically. grin emoticon

Yeah, the growing polarization is disturbing to me. I’ve been fighting for what I consider “reasonable”: Have you political positions, have your stances, have your beliefs and causes and things you fight for, WITHOUT requiring US/THEM Marvel comics hero-villain victim-perpetrator outlook.

In short, diplomacy. Superman and Lex Luthor need to sit at a table and have a chat with some coffee and snacks for a few hours and sort this stuff out.

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Well said. That’s exactly why either/or polarization happens. Boredom. People are bored and want a purpose. Some people can’t fight without having an absolute enemy, the “or” to their “either”, so yeah. Here. How about this: You’re wrong Luke, this is exciting and world changing. Go sit in the corner and think about what you said.

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I’ve been mixed on this confidence angle.

I tend to think of guilt leading to a sense of obligation and confidence leading to purpose.

Yet, purpose *could be* the same thing as obligation. Maybe they just sound different. I dunno.

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I dunno. I don’t get bored. What am I doing right now? Talking about things that interest me. Not bored. I don’t get bored. Other people that get bored? Well, they’ll just have to start breaking things.

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But: if you weren’t thinking of others nor legally held accountable, would you remove the street branch anyway? Or leave it there?

In short, do you have a sense of, “It’s just something that needs to be done” or do you feel a pressure from the obligation?

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My standards are things being more or less orderly, without getting anal about it.

So I would remove the branch because it’s in the way.

In the way of whom? Doesn’t matter. It doesn’t belong there, so I’d move it if I’m capable. If I’m not, I’d get help moving it out of the way.

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Yeah. It’s a want. “right thing to do”. Even in crowded NJ, I just “did what was the right thing to do” just because it was the right thing to do. As a teenager, I’d question “Why?” and say “Not Fair” but then I just did what needed to be done. So it’s also an obligation too, I just didn’t feel any pressure. It was just a civic duty kind of thing.

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I like being a good citizen. Always did. I liked going above and beyond whether or not anybody told me to. It gave me a sense of independence and freedom.

Following my every urge and want around is chaotic. I’m a little OCD so morals like, “leave the place a little better than you found it” and stuff like that suit my nature quite well.

I grew up in a chaotic household. School was chaotic. I ate my lunch at MY pace at school. My pace was so disruptive to the normal lunchtime routine in elementary school that they had me come down 10 minutes early and let me stay 10 minutes late.

So, ingrained? told to? I dunno. These were just things that suited my nature and gave me independence and a way to be different from other people around me.

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Being the only clear thinker in a room of chaotic people is far from following orders. If I followed orders and let things get ingrained in me, *I’d* be chaotic and running around like an idiot like everybody else.

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