In Britain, it’s what was called the “fagging tradition”. [that’s where ‘fag’ came from]. They liked it too in some schools: When it was their turn, they got to do it too.
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In the USA, it’s called ‘hazing’ or ‘pledging’. In Japan, it’s called “Senpai / Kohai”. Same thing.
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It’s likely you want to turn him into a fag and carry on the fagging tradition, which would mean that you were somebody’s fag once.
Known as hazing/pledging in the USA and senpai/kohai in Japan.
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I didn’t hear your no. Just silence. Good to see you pop up over here though.
I’m sure you’ll get the opportunity to do that someday and you’ll have a gay old time doing it. Here and now though? My chin’s solid and my eyes are fine. 4/10 on the attempt.
No need to wait for someone else. You can stand for yourself, right? Follower? Or can you stand alone?
This is about the time that you ‘get bored’ and ‘have better things to do’.
You need more practice. But I’m sure you’ll improve with experience.
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I’m doing the right thing. What you’re talking about sounds like 1840s Alabama. Lord of the Flies. Fagging. Shitty neighborhood with shitty neighbors who get all in each other’s business.
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To raise, yes.
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Submission is not raising – it’s lowering.
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Well nothing. I didn’t get smacked around. I turned out fine. Most of my friends growing up didn’t get smacked around either. I’m from a NJ suburb. Families just didn’t do those things. Wasn’t part of our tradition up there.
To my ears, what you’re talking about sounds bizarre rather than normal.
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I knew all of my neighbors. Knew the local cops. People waved to me. Random adults I knew would talk to me about whatever when I went around town. I learned from everybody.
People who beat other people went to jail up there.
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I respect authority because they can be careless with their weapons and greedy with their power and don’t require higher education yet.
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I lived near a big city – Elizabeth, NJ was big, and it was next to Newark, which was bigger. They were more multicultural and I went to each of them on a regular basis.
While they don’t sound as awful as where you grew up, they had gangs troubles there. White gangs, black gangs, puerto rican gangs, and a law enforcement that was … not the best.
My neighborhood was mixed and politically corrupt but it was small.
So, you’re right: I was lucky. I’m sorry you had to grow up in that kind of environment.
I got out of my public school because, even in that little town, “law of the jungle” also applied there. Jock vs band was the major spilt there. Scholarshipped my way to a tiny private school for high school.
So, while I don’t agree with your solution for the autistic kid in any way, shape or form, I understand better how you ended up with that as ‘the solution’.
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I understand more about the changing world than you know. You don’t learn less when you get older: You learn more. You grew up in a shitty violent environment and it’s not your fault. You don’t even have to fix it. But I’m sorry you went through it and yes, it’s gonna stay fucked up like that for a long time to come.
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Oh it is a different time. I was practically raised on the internet. I got online on 1989.
I’ve been online for 27 years straight.
I’ve been waiting for today’s world where EVERYBODY got to enjoy what nerdy me got early on, and watched all the online subcultures grow and change.
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Liberalism HAS failed because they did it completely wrong. They fucked it up. Too much protecting in the wrong places, not enough empowerment in the right places.
But: here’s the thing authoritarianism hasn’t gone away. It’s just in the wrong hands. The schools. The courts. The law. And they’re doing it wrong.
I agree that communities need to help their own. But the way you’re talking about is the default, shit solution.
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Ok, I’ll give you that point. People who use their label as an excuse without a valid reason are just pampering themselves.
It’s embarrassing when you know they’re capable of more but they’re unwilling to even try. I’ll give you that.
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But I worked with real autistic kids a few times in my life. Rocking, stemming, all of it. You don’t smack it out of them.
What you’re talking about doesn’t sound like autism.
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If the boys mother says, “I think he might be autistic”, he’s not autistic. He might have a problem, but it’s not autism. If it was autism, everybody would know.
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It’s possible. I’m probably on the “autistic spectrum” somewhere. I’m horribly logical and pedantic and I don’t have an ounce of squeamish in me. [blood, gore, shit, vomit, none of that bothers me. I just do what has to be done].
I’ve known autistic women. Aspergers. One ended up in a brilliant career as a security analyst making huge $$$. Very logical woman, funny but can be callous af. [which is why she’s funny].
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I’ve seen violence fuck people up worse rather than improve them. They become bitter, angry at the world wanting to burn it all down and start over again. Seen people snap from army boot camp where they got sent home and never were the same again. Seen people try to kill themselves to get away from violent parents or schoolmates.
So, we have different experiences.
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Mom never smacked me or spanked me. She was a yogurt eater who read mother earth news. She worked in the district attorneys office and I got to hear how stupid lawyers and cops really were. My grandmother did yoga and believed in ancient aliens and worked in engineering.
You know what disciplines you? Life.
I wasn’t coddled. I was raised to be independent. I fought my own battles and learned how to cope.
But those people that you think smacking out of it will help?
Eventually, their parents will die. The people who care for them will die.
They will face life. Adult life is hard. A smack or a punch doesn’t rush it into you. Just living does.
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Single mom, no dad, woman’s salary, she had three kids. Raised us in a neighorhood she couldn’t afford because she wanted to avoid the kind of environment you were raised in, which is where we financially belonged.
Neighborhoods make a huge difference.
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Sounds good. I do too. btw – yeah, i think you’re some kind of autistic or at least like me. WE both speak with passion at great length. G’nite.
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