I’m 45 but if I were 18, I’d be concerned about a reinstatement of the draft. That’s a very real possibility

I’m expecting the USA to go to escalated war with parts of the middle east with help from other parts of the middle east. But I don’t worry about civil war because we have enough outlets to gossip on like Facebook to get it out of our systems safely enough.

I’m 45 but if I were 18, I’d be concerned about a reinstatement of the draft. That’s a very real possibility as a country getting itself hyped up for wars on foreign soil to “show our might”, they’ll need bodies to fill the ranks. I hope it doesn’t happen or if it does, you get a choice to stay here in the states as national guard.

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I salute you for your patriotism to your state. I’m from NJ, now Florida neither of which has the kind of attitude that Texas and a few other states have in state pride. I’ve never felt pride for my state or country, being more of a humanist at heart. [yeah, bleeding heart all over the floor here]. That said, in your boots I think I’d do much the same. Texas is one of a few states (California is another that comes to mind) that would have no problem separating and holding their own. You’ll do fine.

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pleb lol. my 11 yr old nephew just started using the word pleb – correctly in a sentence. When he went through ancient rome and learned about plebians, I got to do an uncle style ‘teachable moment’ and it was good to see his eyes light up in understanding.

Thankfully the group-think of the 20-somethings is only lightly affecting GenZ, as they’re generally moving on from 4chan-isms as their generation begins to take over the internet from their forebearers. Interesting times ahead.

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Pence wouldn’t be so bad if he wasn’t a chronic liar and a homophobe. He’s definitely got the presidential look and radio-show presidential voice. I just wish he’d be more Christian than just talking about it. It’s more than putting on a show for the cameras.

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How is it so clear? A few words on a screen? I feel bad if my suspicions are right. If I’m correct, you’re GenY, internet raised, perhaps with a stay in 4chan /pol as an adolescent for a time, which was a common stop-over point for GenYers a few years ago. Some period of xbox addiction, FPSs, perhaps Halo, over-parented, difficulties in finances and women, feeling screwed over by the boomers in power and rightfully so.

College tuition too expensive, might have finished, might not have. Looking for hope in large online groups ‘acting-as-one’ to save what’s left of humanity by destroying it all to start again, only to find out that the systems that be are more powerful than expected.

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Sorry – I used GenY which is a GenX term but millenial is the more proper term among millenials. I forget to translate.

I hated my generation too, still do. Only redeemable part of my generation was the part I was in which was the “Whiz Kid” 8-bit nerd early adopters, which were 2nd wave. The rest of my generation can go to hell, so I can relate in not liking my own generaton.

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I always found my generation to be 50-100 years behind in their thinking. Stuck in frivolities and believing every high school stereotype was real. I was never a joiner, always an outskirts guy – still am. I go in groups I’m not wanted in and make myself a character there then leave when I get too involved or they like me too much. Is that like you? Perhaps. If you identify with ‘outlier’ archetype then probably.

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ol don’t believe the hype Matt. We had good PR in the 50s. It didn’t ‘work’ then. Rape was commonplace, just unreported. Prayer in schools was all but gone by the 50s anyway, except in some parts of the south, shown in TV and movies in a ‘nostagia’ way at the time harkening back to a time that never really was.

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Leave it to beaver wasn’t a documentary. Better to look to the future for hope. Our audio-visual past was fictional, and the ‘glory days where everything worked’ is a hollywood mirage from the 50s and early 60s. There *was* temporary prosperity for many, where jobs were plentiful, but that was an artificial creation of the mortgage boom in the banks, which started failing by the late 60s, leading to 70s crises, which led to having to leave the gold standard and attach the dollar to oil, leading to today.

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The economy collapsed in the late 1920s and we haven’t recovered. We’ve been living from bubble to bubble and there’s really no other way to do it.

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Naw, my mom’s that old and she filled me in on “what’s bullshit’ from the so called “Golden 50s” that weren’t.

No, we live in the best of times. We just expect less suffering, more reward more quickly.

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I doubt any of us, including me, would know true intolerance anyway. There’s mostly a lot of people bitching and moaning on all sides of the political spectrum. But it’s just gossip ultimately, with the occasional fist thrown.

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Well, I was raised Methodist (liberal Christian) and went through Unitarian, Quaker, a bunch of others, was Eastern Orthodox for a few years in my late 20s, stayed in a monestary for a bit, even learned a little Russian. Now I’m 45. I call myself agnostic but that’s a convenient lie because to say Christian brings up images of TV evangelist mega church Christian, which I never was and never understood.

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I grew up in Jersey where Trump was just a 2-bit lying general contractor who didn’t pay his workers. He was funny on Lifestles of the rich ‘n famous but he was nothing more than a used car salesman to me.

Never expected him to actually win on any of his political stunts. So, my disrespect for him goes way back to my adolescence.

Hitler? Nah. But some of the people who share the glowing eyes Trump pics? They wouldn’t mind him becoming so.

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Never understood Baptist or southern Christianity in general. They were called “scary Christians” when I was growing up. [as opposed to the kinds of chuches I knew well, which were considered “mainline Christian”).

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He’s a salesman, well versed in standard neuro-linguistic speaking techniques. He’s good at it too but it’s flim-flam stuff. His party didn’t matter. He’s not political. He runs a family business that he wants to see continue. He’s not that complicated of a guy.

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denomination-less Christians can be scarier because there’s no accountability. Just me ‘n my Bible means anything goes.

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He’s always the victim. That’s the part that I don’t care for. If it wasn’t for that, I might actually like him.

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He’s always played up the victim status, long before his 3rd run for President.

He wants people to feel bad for him. As long as he has that, he’ll always have an audience ready to listen and agree with him. It’s his MO.

a) There’s no fundamental diff between politician and salesman. The main difference is the types of connections but otherwise it’s the same. He *is* a politician no matter how many times he says he’s not.

Look at branding. What is branding? Politics. He’s a career politician that worked in different circles.

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I didn’t mind HIM so much. It’s the low-lives he surrounds himself with. Let’s pick the worst possible person for this position in the cabinet? Who shall it be? That’s who he picks every time.

A couple of picks are fine. The Supreme Court guy isn’t totally awful, being a by-the-book guy isn’t so bad, although might lack a little in the foresight dept. Still, not awful. But most of his other picks are purposely wrong.

It’s for division. He needs it for his survival.

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 Fact is though, that’s 2-party politics for you. It’s always like this, just usually less “out there”.

In the end, we’re Americans. That has to come first, not Democrat or Republican.
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The Prez and VP don’t do most of the work of government. They’re just the pretty faces and the noisy voices. Most of the actual work is done by the people around them. Figureheads mostly. When they don’t behave like figureheads and instead try to behave like rulers, they get nothing accomplished because that’s not how things work anywhere, even in dictatorships. Cooperation among all stakeholders is key, not follow-orders. [except military, but even there, there’s push-back]
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Why? He’s a celebrity, far above you and me. He’s not us, never was us, would never be us. Does a hashtag make a difference to him? No To you? Sure.

Trump’s’ not being treated like an animal. He probably ate very well tonight and probably always does.
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He doesn’t like his branding tarnished. But a branding is not a person. He wants his followers to not want his branding tarnished. But branding isn’t a person. It’s just image.
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People believed Obama was Satan spawn, from 2008 onwards. All over right-wing talk radio, complete with complicated proofs.

People believed Bush was Illuminate, complete with complicated proofs. This is nothing new. He’s President. Gotta be tough to be President. This is normal.
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The antifa’s seem to be a very small group and are likely paid (their outfits are rather fancy). Designed to stir up trouble to make liberals look bad. Maybe not, but going by the common 4chan tactics over the past two years, it fits the MO of “let’s put this fake thing that looks like it came from a liberal so it makes liberals look bad” tactic, usually on Twitter but sometimes in other places.

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The tactic is so overdone too. Why media doesn’t spot the tactic, I don’t know.

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In my mind Kek died out around October, but there’s still holdouts it seems.

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Well, I couldn’t take the antifa seriously. Oh look they kicked a garbage can! Oh, they break a window. Look, they launched firecrackers! Those darn liberals are at it again! The whole scheme seems half-hearted at best.

Or I’d see a backwards nazi symbol in a supposedly liberal meme on a sockpuppet account that appears to make Trump supporters look bad to liberals but it’s so clearly faked that people on the right can easily dismiss it at fake, making it seem like it was a liberal faking the whole thing for sympathy… that card was WAY overplayed over the past few years.

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I’ve been on Twitter since 2006; I wrote one of the first alt Twitter interfaces. https://simplify3.wordpress.com/2006/12/10/hello-world/ – and was an early adopter, although by the time your gen was using Twitter non-stop, I’d only been using it as a dumping ground for SEO purposes.

I was hooked on Vine for 3+ years though (I made 12000 of them, and had 15000 subs – really sad to see it die – but Twitter never grabbed me as useful communication but neither did text messaging before that. ..

But I underestimated Twitter just as I underestimated Youtube when it came out. Never thought it would get popular. I made a few videos back in ’06 then mostly forgot about it. Seemed to clunky to succeed. Oh well :)

As far as piss-head? This is the net. I’ve been online since 1989, since I was 16/17 years old. I’ve seen it all and don’t take emotional stuff personally.

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as far as the vids go, there’s so much fakery going on, especially through Liveleak, I don’t watch them. Lots of fakery from Brazil over the years but US content producers are getting better at it. My rule? if it’s viral, it’s *probably* faked and even researching can be a tricky affair, as a good fakery will have a paper trail. Mostly I just don’t bother and just pursue my nerdy activities.

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News is absolutely desperate for content, especially in these times when proper news orgs are on their way out [although Trump *has* given them new life… if he lost, they’d have died out quietly. Now they’ll be around at least as long as he’s President].

Hopefully staged. Might not be. It’s so easy to fake. I used to track down crazy Brazilian shit. It was hard because there’s fake local news papers in tiny Brazilian towns even they never heard of, which bubbles up the new outlets.

Usually it’s “alligator eats girl” -or a video of a guy getting his jaw ripped off, or a horrible accident. All from film students in Brazil – overtalented and underworked, just like eastern european malware makers. Almost can’t blame them for fucking up my mom’s computer with Ransomware but still, pain in the ass.

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