If you were ONLY exposed to his fans with no contrary evidence and found no people who thought otherwise who didn’t like or hated him, that would be more amazing.

If you were ONLY exposed to his fans with no contrary evidence and found no people who thought otherwise who didn’t like or hated him, that would be more amazing.

BUT if you were exposed to SOME people who didn’t like or hated him, my point is validated as it stands.

“That’s ’cause you’re hearing from people who didn’t like him or hated him.”

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No, not internet memes. Think Dawkins “meme”.“erosion of freedom”, “stirring up racial tension” are particular political memes ONLY found in a certain segment of the US population, not the rest.But foreign policy complaints cross political boundaries..
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  FIRST heard “Obama stirs up racial tensions” around mid 2015.But I never heard in ONCE from 2008-2015.Why? I didn’t hang around people who thought that way and I was and am all over the internet, live in a redneck area.
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  Wow, putting words in my mouth. You’re indoctrinated well. They did good with you
I’ll wait for Koen to come back. I was talking to him.
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  I’ll wait. So you’re going to stick with an inference that me and everybody I knew and talked to from 2008-2015 was “left wing and American”.
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  That’s an 8 yr long echo chamber you’re implying. Is that what you thinks is true or did you use that as rhetoric?
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  You hung around the “Woke folk” and I hung around the
“Sheeples”?
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  They caused the violence then said they’d reduce the violence once in power.Think that through.
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Years start in August/September. 9/2004 – 5/2017 = 12 yrs of school.
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  Think it through: 12 “full years”. That includes start to finish of each.So:
1-start to 12-start = 12 yrs but
1-start to 12-finish is almost 13 yrs.
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and ACTUALLY:
Walking him to college is:
9/2004-9/2017 following standard schedule.
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Oh, I’m not defending it as a good system.
I’d prefer elimination of grade levels altogether.
But how long is the structured prison term you’re thinking of?
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Politics isn’t my obsession. I already only post occasionally about him.

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 and I are long time online friends?It’s nothing to do with politics at all. Politics isn’t that important ultimately.
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 I talk a lot about black issues and US inequalities a lot. I did that long before imaginary nations did imaginary wars.
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  It’s a country that’s been taken over by corporate interests for a long time. So fundamentally? No. But did we slide into oligarchy? Yes.
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 You have to be wealthy to enter politics in the USA at any significant power position.
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  If you’re not wealthy, you need the support of wealthy people or corporations.
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But masquerade? No.
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  This is why in the US it’s important to look at financial or informational backers when analyzing politicians.Main paths to power are money and information.Nobody rises up in politics without help. The “lone wolf” politician is just standard US politician BS.
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  Information trails too. Dirt on political opponent, intelligence, etc.Important is that both money and information can create active networks of people and organizations.This is different from, for example, a detective following a path of money to a murder, as political power is like continual ongoing murders.

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  It’s an analogy.
Detective follows a trail for a single murder investigation.
People who scrutinize politicians follow many trails for many investigations.
With politicians, those trails are often networks rather than “single use”.

I didn’t mean actual murders.

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  I used “ongoing murders” as a metaphor.
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