I’d love to see two slightly different density gatorades used in the same bottle in order to have a spiraling purple/yellow swirl gatorade.

I’d love to see two slightly different density gatorades used in the same bottle in order to have a spiraling purple/yellow swirl gatorade.

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Once Upon A Time, before discovering the mystical secret of The Diet Peach Iced Tea, Snapple had clear sodas. They all had fantastical names that I don’t remember but there was a clear cola, a transparent root beer, an invisible orange… it was magical.

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I’m fine with unsweetened peach. There’s another company whose name I can’t remember now, that makes a delicious unsweetened iced tea. It’s in a squarish bottle at the checkout at supermarkets, often on sale. I should find the name. It’s the first really good mass produced unsweetened tea that I remember.

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ugh Nestle damn you. it’s a good tea but I don’t think they make companies more unethical than Nestle. Still, I buy their products.

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It has to be REALLY awful for me to boycott. Sometimes it works though. My mother tells the story: In the 1970s, Nestle got in trouble for claiming their baby formula was healthier than breast milk, and dropshipped it all over Africa.

What happened? People switched over to it, which would have been fine *except* they stretched out the formula with water, turning an otherwise good product into something that left babies underweight, malnourished and sickly.

The church she went to along with thousands of others boycotted Nestle for a couple of years and whatever the result was, apparently it worked.

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I agree with you. Ethical shopping is a luxury. Regular people can’t afford ethical shopping for most things. Besides, I think it worked in those churches because the churches themselves would help people who were doing the boycotting. The richer people in the church would contribute non-Nestle food items for the poorer people in the churches, so that nobody went without.

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The liberal churches get into that stuff usually. I think the #1 in that department is probably the Unitarians (UU). They’re always on a corporate boycott of some kind, plus a lot of members have $$$ to make up for those that don’t. If I ever did churchy stuff again, I might try them again ’cause they don’t expect you to have any particular belief system.

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Nowadays, the right-wing churches are grabbing the last bits of power in a desperate attempt for relevance but they’re doing it in a way that will end up wrecking it for the good ones.

Oh well…

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wow, yeah you’re right about that. These groups work well when they’re multicultural, plurist, have a good understanding of the needs of their people, which are secular as well as spiritual, and are reasonable about life in general.

I hate to admit it, but even the Ottoman Empire had its period of being reasonably decent, but that’s ’cause they believed they were Rome #3.

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this happens a lot, but also Kenneth is just fun to talk to abt p much anything”

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True. I mean they have this “empire desire” but DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO with themselves when they actually *get* the power.

What made Rome work for so long and the Byzantine Empire after it, and Rys and Ottoman Empires (they each had empres spanning many hundreds of years) is that they understood once they get into power, learn to work with all different kinds of people, have reasonable laws for most situations, etc.

But the people hungry to “get power” don’t know what to do when they get it. They don’t realize they gotta be super flexible.

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They’re never satisfied because they get their “journey + destination” cliche all mixed up.

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I feel like I broke two unspoken rules: a) I made a mandela of mandelas and b) it’s corporate logos all the way down to infinitessimal wow those are beautiful bottles.

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Had female friend once. She didn’t feel like dating anybody and neither did I so we pretended to be husband and wife around town [we bickered naturally so it was easy]. One day we bought this BEAUTIFUL wine bottle. Cobalt Blue, had a moon on it (said Luna or something). One of the worst wines I ever had. But I let her keep the bottle and bought myself a cobalt blue coffee mug for myself next week.

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^ stories with no punchline. I’m good at those.

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