I wanted to stop him from going to far with it because he was getting very close to basically “going Luddite” in response..

Thank you.  It’s an ongoing pattern I’ve noticed again and again.

Once you notice the pattern of an ideology taking hold in somebody, there’s not much time to be helpful.

I had it the other day:  A friend had a persuasive argument, based upon regular logical methods (the stuff ppl learn in college philosophy I suppose) explaining how AI WILL EVENTUALLY DESTROY HUMANITY.

He felt justified.  He countered every point people made.  He considered his position logical, tenable, and, frankly, important for people to agree with.

It took a LOT OF convincing for me to help him.  I played his logic game, went back and forth for a while and then I let him have it.  I don’t like doing that – I said some things that weren’t very nice in the process but it was important to me.

In the end, he could see it  This is all online but it had a “tons of bricks” realization quality about it.

The whole time he felt logical, justified and if one followed his arguments and did not question, he was likely correct.

But he didn’t see, at first, how his original premise was flawed.  But eventually he did.  I may have only succeeded in a chink in his armor but I see t have gotten though.

The reason why I fought him so tooth and nail wasn’t about his logic: it was the fervency of his belief that was frightening.  He considers himself without beliefs, just logic. But he’s not – no one is. Belief is a part of our cognitive processes.

I wanted to stop him from going to far with it because he was getting very close to basically “going Luddite” in response..

That would be his choice of course.  But being wrapped up in the ideology, he wasn’t thinking straight.   He was sounding paranoid to me.

So, I look for the patterns because I don’t care if I win an internet debate or having someone agree with me…. but I do care about psycho

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