I love the uncanny valley concept. There’s also that ‘mapless’ zone where even all familiarity is gone and all you have is questions with no answers possible. That’s an interesting place to be in.

I love the uncanny valley concept. There’s also that ‘mapless’ zone where even all familiarity is gone and all you have is questions with no answers possible. That’s an interesting place to be in.

I don’t have any literature on the “mapless” zone – I just made that up now but I know it’s a ‘thing’. Hopefully somebody has a name for it besides that.

But for uncanny valley? VSauce has great entertaining description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEikGKDVsCc

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No sophistry. “Dead planet” is a planet without life for example. Doesn’t mean it was ever alive.

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I don’t necessarily have a distinct position from yours Peter. I think we might have the same position. That’s why I bring this up to clarify.

If you agree to it, then we’re probably in agreement. If you don’t, then I’d like to figure out what the distinctions are.

” So, we’re entirely programmed living robots and robots are entirely programmed dead robots?”
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If you don’t like the word “dead”, I’m sure another word can be used to substitute. I’m not hung up on particular words, just concepts.
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I like the liquid guy although his programming kind of sucked.

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Here we go. I’m not trying to trap you Peter Ip just understand better.

Here’s how I read what you wrote in the OP. Series of nested boxes like so.
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Now I don’t necessarily subscribe to an “object oriented” Universe where the children inherit the traits of the parents automatically, although I’m open to it.

In that scenario, the larger systems are necessarily alive, perhaps more alive than our alive. This also would mean the things we create are also alive.

I don’t necessarily subscribe to this but for a nested boxes view of the universe (which is what you seemed to describe in the op), this would be entirely logical.
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If, however, the smaller have traits not present in some form in the larger, then one has to ask, “Where did these traits come from then?”

At the very least, living humans are the product of a living earth.

Life begat life.

But that would logically mean that the Universe is alive as the planet and the humans within this Universe would logically have gotten these traits from the larger, which would be the Universe.
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depends how imaginative their programmers allow them to be.

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In swarm-type robots where the programming can be communicated and mutate, they can evolve and procreate within their programming.
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