I like some chaos and seeing if I can find the most difficult people and find the human hiding in there.

man… you know me better than I know me but you’re right. I think of myself as a positive troll: I love diverting threads. I learn a lot of new stuff that way: I’ll argue a position I disagree with. Or someone pisses me off and I’ll derail them into a side conversation where they’ll fight ME instead of other people.

I always learn something about myself, about other people, I get to watch people who are way smarter than me get into their “stupid spots”, which makes them smarter if they are smart enough to realize the opportunity I gave them… and stuff like that.

I think that’s why I like charged forums like this. Peaceful ones are too agreeable. I like some chaos and seeing if I can find the most difficult people and find the human hiding in there.

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Don’t tell anyone. People thinking I’m an idiot gives them a lot of rope to hang themselves with. Before they know it, we’re in agreement over something and they never saw it coming.

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Yeah, I’m not here to make ppl think like me. I just want them to be themselves, just a little less assholey for just a moment. Sometimes I have to get into hour long debates over the stupidest things just to reach the point where their defenses are down and they show they’re human. That’s all I ever want.

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Those actually sound like fun convos. I think one thing we all three seem to have in common is a “meta view” of our participation in these things.

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For me anarchy is like this: The neo nazi supremicist is free to think his neo nazi supremacy things all he likes, debate them, talk about them. I don’t worry about them because the Nazi regime has been dead and buried for 70 years, and if they want to engage in their fantasy-land, then so be it.

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[Awesome!! I know that our very first interaction, didn’t go all that well… But I still got a good vibe from you, man. And after seeing how you handle yourself in here, I like you even more!! Just being honest…. A good heart, is a good heart.] JH
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To me, it’s worth a lot. Genuine is what I look for in ppl and I expect ppl to have their defenses up, especially if they’re used to online conflict. So, it’s all good like emoticon – and yeah, what you said tonight, all of it, made my week – so thanks!

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Never finished college. Career tests always put me as “minister/priest, coach, psychologist, professor” – but one of them really nailed me: “Middle School Special Education” as my #1. Special ed is both talented/gifted and also people who school isn’t made for… and I’m good with people who fall outside of the “bell curve” generally.So there ya go smile emoticon
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 Awesome! Sorry about the fall tho’. Yeah, workplace life wasn’t for me. As a teenager, I was custodian for my local church (7 days a week, age 13-18 ’cause they had a nursery school there). Did a little overpriced college but had to leave (no $),I worked for a carpet cleaning company for a bit, a print shop, then I did a lot of temp work. I did SEO a few years ago before Google’s shift in 2011/2012. I lost my knack after that though.
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cool – yeah, I knew the old fashioned way: keyword stuffing but not too much, portals, postings little bits in lots of forums, massive backlinking…. long tail… ugh, yeah, I got nailed but at least it gave my website a good 7 years of profitability.I only did it for one website – my own, as supplemental income. I was my only client smile emoticon But it made a few hundred a month for quite some time because I saw something Google wasn’t doing: business listings and I was on top of that. But as Facebook and Google both improved their business listings, and support for local search, I was doomed. But I can’t complain. I enjoyed the Web 2.0 era.
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That’s the thing: you gotta see “what’s missing” and fill it. and you can laugh – the site is horribly 90’s looking: I designed it in 2007 using a WEIRD French CMS that happened to give me all of the feed pulling capabilities I needed. It was low on server load, efficient, written in PHP so it was easy to hack to how I wanted it to behave.Man, youtube offered RSS feeds back then – it was beautiful.The main site I work on now is just for myself really: it’s wordpress – I love wordpress now. http://icopiedyou.com – I made a “google search” of my brain. I ‘ve been collecting various notes I wrote through the… decades… online and sticking it all in one place. I have a few other sites as well but yeah, I use wordpress these days for most projects.
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 Yeah, template wordpress is kinda sad looking. For me it’s all about the plugins. SOMEBODY has written something to help you with what you wanna do. I’ve tried other packages through the years, and I almost felt like a criminal going to wordpress but, well, they’re doing it right. I’ve recommended it to a number of ppl. It’s missing a few things I want to see, but eventually somebody will write a plugin for it. I would but I’m too lazy for my projects. I’ve only messed with the templates in a few places but where I’ve done so, it was really easy to work with.
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Yeah – they really give you complete control over the look and feel of wordpress. Even a number of the plugins I use could’ve been accomplished via templates. I customized a few of them… but heck, I dont’ even have the color scheme set up right. In my case, it’s for quick and easy entry of dated material Copy paste, set date, publish. Drag drop pictures. Works with ifttt to automate twitter insertions (which I use so that my Vines end up on my site so I can find them later). It’s really flexible.And it’s ok: I don’t usually talk in private chat with ppl much but I’ll do it from time to time. This was one of those times smile emoticon
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I’ve been on the Internet since 1989 at 17, and I hung out at my local library before that a lot. So, credit online for it. 27 years – I’d get on as much as I could. I’d bring diskettes to work and reply to people when nobody was looking while offline, get home, upload my replies. I just follow my curiousity.
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My temp jobs were mostly data entry and some programming or whatever they needed. The position I got as systems analyst – it was weird. It started off copying and pasting in Excel. I fibbed and said I knew excel but it wasn’t a strong lie: I knew I could figure it out. So I got bored copy/paste. I learned to automate it. I took on more and more and more. Next thing I know, I’ve programmed this spaghetti code mess that they were making money off of.
– at some point, I cut my hours back to 4… started taking college courses . They decided they HAD to hire me and when they did, I asked the most because I didn’t care if I got it or not. They put out the job thing [I wrote the description] and I feel bad for the ppl who applied for it: People with degrees, far more experience than me…. and even with THAT, I didn’t care of I got it. I was ready to leave. Ended up working out well. It was cool.
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Yeah, same here. It was a negotiation – They wanted me more than I wanted them. I researched what was the right amt in my area for “SYSTEMS ANALYST II” [I didn’t know what that meant – they just gave it that name] – and that’s exactly what I asked for. I didn’t expect to get it. And yeah – same : the people I was supporting were data analysts who knew their way around email and Excel but only just… so I was a weird cross between IT and data analyst. The IT ppl couldn’t stand me because I didn’t speak their language. I understood it, but I didn’t speak it. The data analysts loved me because I was like a “super-charged” one of them.
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Same here. I think we both are the kind of person who “fills a niche”. Misfits. Driven to figure out stuff. It’s definitely a personality thing. People who do programming for example: I did programming but I didn’t sit in a team and do team things. I’m not a team player: it took me a long time to realize that “team player” doesn’t fit me at all. I don’t TRY to be non-conformist. I’m just how I am.
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 There’s opportunity everywhere you go. I think I turned down more opportunities than I’ve taken but the ones I take, I grab on and go for the ride. Even now, I shouldn’t be sitting here. I should be stressed out after a week in a 9-5 office job, sleeping filled with anxiety medication or _something_. But instead, I’m sitting on a back lanai, full screen, birds are chirping. I got a mortgage, run a business, help my bro and his family out and my mom… I got no money right now, but it’s ok. I know i could get more if I pushed.
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 What’s interesting about it is the generational thing though: My nephew’s just turned 11. His generation is being told “Never forget” and yet, they weren’t even alive then. So their memes reflect it. I can understand though: When I was young it was POW/MIA everywhere and I couldn’t understand the fuss about soldiers left in Vietnam because it was before my time.
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