Yes, I can agree that mathematical principles tend to describe the Universe quite well as we humans perceive it at this point in history from our collective subjective perspective. It has predictive power, both forward and backwards in Time that is, if one takes Time as on a line, which I don’t, but that’s another issue tongue emoticon Yet mathematics as it exists, is just a language like music or English, more akin to programming or machines that do things. So, yes, I’m in agreement with you.
I understand what you’re saying.
But it’s mixing effect and cause and purpose.
WE invented Calculus.
Calculus happens to describe the movement of Bees very well in a general way.
We’ve discovered patterns and described them in a form we call mathematics.
The patterns seem to have existed beforehand, seems to have predictive power.
If *that’s* what you mean, then I can agree to that, yes.
es, I don’t think we’re in disagreement, just describing things differently.
you and Bat Mann are describing the Platonic realm and it’s one model of describing reality; that manner of thinking is the cornerstone of Western formulations of descriptions of reality and it works very well.
I tend towards an “embodied cognition” or “embedded metaphor” model of reality, which roots itself in cognitive science more than Platonic forms, so it might explain why my perspective seems a little strange to you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Mathematics_Comes_From
Is more my way of thinking when it comes to mathematics.
Or, in a shorter form, I’m not an idealist. Nothing wrong with it, just not how I see things.
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