Depends on the kid. They’re individuals. My 5 yr old niece here fights suppertime and loves junk food but my 4 yr old ne loves protein, right from starting solid food. He’ll eat chicken or beef or drink milk over cookies, although he likes cookies too.

Depends on the kid. They’re individuals. My 5 yr old niece here fights suppertime and loves junk food but my 4 yr old ne loves protein, right from starting solid food. He’ll eat chicken or beef or drink milk over cookies, although he likes cookies too.

One thing that surprises many parents is if they have a so-called “fussy eater”, is when the very same “fussy eater”, is well mannered and eats everything on their plate when at school or staying over relatives or at friends’ houses.

Those parents don’t realize they’re stuck in a typical parent/child roleplay game

If you put 15-30 strangers together in a box for 7.5 hours a day, 5 dys a week, there’s GONG to be social stresses.

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There’s a difference between social stresses and bullying. The question is where you draw the lines but there’s always social stresses.

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I’m not actually a fan of the term because it seems vague. Harassment, assault, torture – these are what they’d be called if it were other players in the same situation.

But… then we as a society would *really* have to deal with it and I don’t think society’s ready to move past cute terms like bullying. It’d require a restructuring of schools if the behaviors were treated as adult crimes. I’m not suggesting that either. But yes, you’re right. The precision should be nailed down somewhere.

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I had rocks thrown at me in 3rd grade by a group of 4th graders while going home from school. Broke my glasses. Not much I could do.

I dealt with it. But I wouldn’t say it should be encouraged by parents, teachers, school administrators, local police and the legal system.

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You’re right  – and it’s a problem that simply can’t be eliminated. ‘s fantasy land of no social stresses isn’t the goal.

It’s to eliminate the obvious assholes that will end up in jail as adults. That’s something at least. I don’t know if fining the parents is the way to go or not – that’s why I brought up the article.

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I was different. Just how I am. Smart kid. Wore glasses. I was younger. They were bigger. I was alone. They were in a group.

Did you ever raise chickens? I’ve raised chickens. We have some here now, clucking away. [my brother takes care of this set].

If a chicken has a flaw, the other chickens pick at it until they’re dead.

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Can’t please everyone. I personally think bullies should get counseling/therapy/etc etc, but then this town wants to get law-and-order on them.

Don’t know if I agree or not at the moment. But you’re getting SJW liberal about the bullies here and it doesn’t make sense.

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Yeah, the hardest bullies to catch are the sweet-talkers. They’re often the mean girls and the popular kids. They get away with murder… actually sometimes they have literally. Cute smile, pretty face, good academic behavior, in the sports… and the adults fawn all over this child super-star.

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Mean girls are groups of three or more girls, very common in middle schools. They gang up and torture other girls and boys in some very insidious ways.

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Can’t stop them. They’re invisible until there’s physical evidence.

They’re only outed after they tortured a kid to suicide. I stayed away from them so I was ok, but I felt awful for other kids that felt their wrath, both girls and boys. My middle school experience was mostly ok but those kids had it really bad and it messed them up as adults.

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Anybody could become suicidal in the right circumstances.

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Bullying isn’t healthy behavior. Are you talking about ribbing or joking or name calling? So, then you can draw the line there.

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Make up your own definition then. I gave you the general definition. You don’t seem to like it.

Forget the mean girls then. They’re fine in your lawbook.

So, broken ribs would be the dividing line?

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I’m not sure why catering to the special needs of thugs is so important though.

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Every child should have a right to sucker punch every other child so long as they don’t break any bones.

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I think you’re doing the idealistic hand waving here John. Joe and I are trying to solve a problem.

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I’m leaning towards not liking the laws in that town because they include punishing the parents for kids breaking curfew. To me, that’s making parents do the police work for them.

Then again, maybe they should because they’re legally responsible for their kids until they’re 18… but I think I’m leaning against it.

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It really is. We make fun of it because it’s so common. Parents and schools let it slide by because “girls will be girls” / “boys will be boys”.

Then those girls and boys grow up and we wonder why society’s messed up in so many places. Oh well. Doubt it can be fixed but why every generation’s put through a 12 year meat grinder without anybody supervising, full of future murders and future saints alike has been strange to me since I was a kid.

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