Civil service is like that too. Known a few people with civil service protections where there was a political shift and the new people wanted their own in, so someone would turn the thumbscrews and sour the milk.

Civil service is like that too. Known a few people with civil service protections where there was a political shift and the new people wanted their own in, so someone would turn the thumbscrews and sour the milk.

But private business is the worst, especially small companies. A few horrible examples: One guy was a faithful employee of a company for decades. New ppl wanted him out. They kept moving his office until finally it was in the back of a warehouse placed underneath some overhanging pieces of lumber that were teetering precariously over his workspace.

He held in until they fired him and had to pay unemployment, which is what they were trying to avoid. [and likely what the Uinversity was trying to avoi]

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Knew one faithful worker where the new bosses started spreading rumors about him, setting it up that he was cheating on his wife, which he wasn’t. It was ridiculous – like something out of a bad movie plot – happening in a New Jersey factory. Anyway, it worked, he left, lost his pension.

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My mother had it in a county govt job, several times, different ways. It’s a normal part of business / govt / academia, but its ridiculous and wrong.

That’s probably why I don’t sympathize with the guy in the initial article: he left and then complained far and wide. His choice. But there’s nothing special about the situation he was in. Its not right but its not uncommon either.

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Maybe I should be more sympathetic though. I suppose what I’m doing is the equivalent of “I was spanked as a kid and turned out ok” to justify spanking. Eh, I have to work on myself a bit in this dept I guess.

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He’s grumpy-mc-grumperton and quit because wah-wah internal politics changed and he didn’t like it.

Wasn’t censored. Wasn’t fired.

I *want* to be sympathetic to the guy but it’s hard to be, especially when he tries to tie in all of academia and politics and first amendment and banning and other dramatic things when really, it’s none of that stuff. Just grumpy wah-wah.

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You quit your job and hate your old boss and want everybody else to hate your old boss too.

It’s *very* hard for me not to read it that way. I’m trying even if it doesn’t seem so.

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Now, are universities hypocritical? YES
Do internal and external politics play a role? YES

Those things I take as a given.

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Sure. But I started seeing that in the 4th grade in school, saw it continue at various jobs. Can’t escape it.

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“We”? Nice. I’m all for idealism. Keep the flame burning brah. Resist, Revolt, FightTheSystem. I do it too in my own ways. I just don’t see this as one of those critical issues. He get can another job. There’s no censorship here. Maybe he’s not a great teacher. I don’t know.

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I’m aware of normalization. Not a fan. But I have other issues where I fight normalization. Some things that are normal shouldn’t be normal. For some people, this guy quitting a job *is* that very issue that needs their energy and focus and they should by his side as he complains about his old boss while he looks for another job.

But it seems like a waste of energy to me for people to join him on his quest there. Maybe it matters to you. If so, that’s great.

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Well, you have a good reason to fight this then. I didn’t get into the nitty-gritty of it all. I skimmed a couple of articles and it seemed there were plenty of places and ways to study this artist.

So, I saw no censorship happening. Change in “whats popular”? in this one place? Maybe. But I could be certain that there was a disgruntled employee who left and was raising a stink.

Maybe it’s a good stink to be raised. I dunno. But I had no problem learning about this artist and I knew nothing about him before this article. So, I didn’t see much issue there.

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Well, we got internet. Information access. Universities are old things – heck, schools in general are moving that way. But they’re not going anywhere. The politics of them come and go, shift and change with the times.

But age 5-18 compelled education? That’s an area that has my anti-normalization fires lit. I will argue ’til my fingers fall off when I see shit textbooks or administrative BS or areas where education psychology has gone wrong, or movements where private groups place undue influence and stuff like that.

That get my ire because the kids have few choices there. So glad Generation Z is significantly online. While there’s a lot of crap out here which will mislead, there’s also a lot of great stuff too. Within the insanity, they’ll find themselves and won’t have to be exclusively reliant upon their school.

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sometimes I get passionate about it. I posted a comment On a vsauce video almost 3 years ago and just this morning another kudos came in from a kid, looks like 4th/5th grade. This is the area I battle against normalization. Access to information is vital. So when I see someone calling something censorship that ISNT censorship (like the teacher who is complaining about his ex boss), I get mad. It’s not censorship unless you genuinely lose access.

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