Thanks for thinking of me about this
a) Learning never ends
b) College is almost expected for everyone and people who have college judge people who do not differently
c) Sadly, not having college makes it more difficult to get in a majority of jobs. I ran into this problem a lot. I do not have a college degree and for some employers, they won’t even see you for an interview if you don’t have one.
d) it’s REALLY hard to get into college once you’re past 21/22/23 yrs old. All of the opportunities for scholarships and grants start to disappear completely.
e) People with ‘regular college’ look down on people with community college degrees and look even more down on people with high school diplomas
So, not having college is a handicap for jobs and can limit you socially.
I never finished college. I did 1.5 yrs at college. I loved it but we ran out of money so I couldn’t finish.
A few years later, I had a job and paid (cash) for community college classes. I took some.
Not having college won’t stop you from learning but it can stop opportunities from being available and you only get a limited amount of time to attend the good schools (it has to be soon after high school).
It’s not fair honestly. It really isn’t. What happens after age 23 or so is people start giving you less and less opportunities. Grant and scholarship money suddenly aren’t availabe for you. Adults around you are less willing to call you “kid” and give you a break and help you out. They begin to treat you as someone who should be able to stand on your own two feet.
By the time you’re 28, they REALLY expect you to be able to stand alone and they start calling you ‘sir” and “ma’am” instead of “kid”. It’s a strange experience tbh. You’re the same person but people treat you differently.
Will college ruin your love for learning? It won’t. College is actually easier than high school. A lot easier. _Some_ professors will ‘trick you’ but most want you to succeed yet they don’t care if you fail either. You can just ‘not show up’ to classes and they quietly mark you out and it affects your grade.
You’re expected to do what they ask but the only consequences are in your grade. You stand or fall on your own at college. It’s freedom yet also responsibility.
I was never good at studying. I either learned the material or I didn’t. Some people are good at studying. I don’t know which one is better suited for college.
It’s hard to be objective: I personally would just get rid of all the schools and let people learn on their own and judge people by their talents and give everybody who is honest a chance to succeed.
If we had the money, I’d have gone into theoretical physics or become a middle school special ed teacher at an alternative school somewhere. I’d be working with the kids who are gifted. and also those who had non-intellectual talents.
Yet I have no regrets. I like who I am and where I am in life.
I wish I could give you a definitive “YES GO TO COLLEGE!” or “NAH FORGET IT – NOT WORTH IT!” but I can’t.
But I can say that there’s unfortunately time limits to the “college opportunity” and they fade away REALLY fast. You reach out to grab them and the powers that be look at you with cold, unfeeling eyes. “Sorry man but hey, you made your choice by not going so get a job or something”.
Childhood is harder than adulthood.
Adulthood you get the freedom to fail.
It’s actually a wonderful freedom because you also get the freedom to succeed and there’s really not much difference between the two.
In college, it’s a bit of a meat grinder, depending what school you go to, but the work isn’t really THAT difficult if you just follow along and college life, if you live on campus, is a LOT of fun.
I’d say “go to college for the social life” if nothing else. That part is awesome and I’m glad for the 1.5 yrs I was there for that.
When i did community college in my late 20s, it was different. There were people of all ages and while I made some friends, people tend to “age segregate” – the older students tended to be islands and the younger students stuck together in their own groups. It was fine to me because I didn’t want clusters of friends.
But getting clusters of strange friends in my college time *was* a lot of fun and worth it.
So, I don’t know the answer. I guess “try it if the chance is there”. You really only get one real shot at it, and it’s unfortunately age-based more than anything else.
But beyond the age of 23+, you lose that helping hand (you also get a helping hand at jobs too – people willing to cut you some slack in your performance because of age). That totally disappears by the age of 28.
That’s not a bad thing, just how it is.
So, a lot of words with no clear answer here, just rambling thoughts.
Let me know if anything resonates with you at all and I’ll try to be less long-winded in my reply
In the end, college or not, you make your own road. Its not even that you “have to make your own road”, you just *do* regardless.
If you are willing to go into business for yourself with something and have the push and fight for it, you don’t need any college.
If you can prove yourself in job interviews that you’re worthy, you can get around the “minimum requirements” for a job., but that *can* be tricky. I was able to do it through a temp agency, who was like having a “friend in the company”. Also, having a friend in a company helps you get in.
Learning alone brings personal success but not always financial success. College doesn’t give magic jobs either. There’s people with PhDs that struggle, Doctors with MDs that struggle to start up their own practice and such.
But their degrees give them “extras” – perks. The same kinds of invisible “helping hands” that are available when you’re 23 and under (and a few from 23-27 while people still call you ‘kid’), are available to help PhDs, MDs, people with Masters, Bachelors Degrees…
They get help from their college, from alum of their college. They have their own ‘networks’ that help each other get gainful employment and such. I’ve never been a part of any of those, but I know they exist for them.
I kinda hate that the world is set up this way. “It’s not what you know, it’s who you know” is one of those annoying “truisms”. Some people have “clout” and the people with clout make things happen. Not how I’d run the world, not at all.
Yet, the whole world *isn’t* like that. I’m not like that and I’m here. Lots of people aren’t like that.
So I guess there’s two worlds really. There’s the one where you get lots of helping hands because you’re part of these hidden networks, and another one that you’re independent and make your way the best you can with your own wit and charm as you go along.
Me? I’d just give a universal basic income, basic health care, put all learning online (and have community schools available for those who like to socialize in person) – and stuff like that.
But I’m an alien in this place. No complaints but it’s a strange world.
<3 You’re welcome! Whether you do or not, I’m still proud that you’re considering it and glad to have been in the right place to inspire!