But yeah, I felt kinda bad for him. I don’t think he was dangerous, just didn’t “get it”.

 

Oh they do. It just reminded me of a high school friend me and a bunch of others went to go to a bar with long ago in NJ.

I guess we were in our late 20s by then. We’re all talking about about whatever and he comes out with something (in all seriousness) about girls that are “just budding”. Nervous laughter all around. Killed the mood. Couple of people got up and moved off to other tables without saying anything else.

After a couple of times of that, he wasn’t really welcomed in the group anymore.

Nobody contronted or said anything to him that I know of. I doubt he ever really understand “what happened”… and we never talked about it.

But yeah, I felt kinda bad for him. I don’t think he was dangerous, just didn’t “get it”.

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Then there was my 4th grade “fair weather friend” who is in his 40s now and spent his entire 20s “crashing” 15-16 yr old girls’ drinking parties, just showing up in the backyards, chatting it up with the girls, who were like “wtf dude”. Yeah he was another one.

So yeah I guess my general impression of peds is generally that of pity, unless they act on it.

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Well, I think the people like i mentioned above are sexually immature; they’re still attracted to the same people that attracted them when they were 12/13/14 yrs old and somewhere along the line they forgot to look into a mirror, check their birth certificate and because they feel powerless themselves, they can’t imagine how they’d possibly be a threat to anybody, seeing themselves as equal power levels to the people they’re talking about/ pursusing / whatever.

The ones that act out on it though, which like you said is a smaller percentage, don’t get much sympathy from me. It’s true that nobody asked to have to “grow up” just like nobody asked to be born, and nobody asked to be born into a society where you gotta pay taxes or whatever…. ya just do.

But the headline worthy predators? To me they’re rapists.

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Well we have our own civilized banishing rituals, like the guy in the bar. Serves the same function.

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While I’m not a fan of vigilante justice and if you were caught I’d support your prosecution, in my head I’d probably be cheering you on.

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I suppose my view is somewhat similar to the Japanese view of ‘em. They joke about them on anime shows, even down to the level of Pokemon – the creepy man who is kinda pathetic but mostly harmless, more the object of pity and slight scorn. Their whole industry of stuff that would be forbidden in western countries (products with both genders represented) is allowable because of this outlook yet if someone was to act on it, off to jail they go.

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I suppose my view is somewhat similar to the Japanese view of ‘em. They joke about them on anime shows, even down to the level of Pokemon – the creepy man who is kinda pathetic but mostly harmless, more the object of pity and slight scorn. Their whole industry of stuff that would be forbidden in western countries (products with both genders represented) is allowable because of this outlook yet if someone was to act on it, off to jail they go.

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I remember when sex predator law “Megan’s Law” went on the books in New Jersey USA, back in the 90s. I was living there at the time.

They started doing public notifications of sex offender addresses.

Within a week, a man burst into the address listed for a predator, killed the man sleeping there.

He killed the wrong man.

So, they set my opinion on vigilantism pretty firmly.

That being said, as long as you don’t tell me about it and I don’t know anything about it, nothing happened.

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True. There’s a lot of gray area and a lot of things happen in the gray zone. Sometimes your only recourse is to operate in the gray zone. But… like you said, not leaving marks would be wise indeed.

The reason I wouldn’t encourage this is because that way of thinking _also_ allows a lot of abuse of innocents to occur.

But all that being said, I prefer living in a civilized society. I don’t have any romantic notions of a “better primitive time” in my head ’cause honestly, we’re still in primitive times.

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Your example above pretty much covers the reasons for rational thought and due process.

It’s the best we’ve got for now ’til something better comes along. We’re working on 1000 yr old English Common Law and yeah, it’s due for some more upgrades but at the moment, it’s the best we’ve got.

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You referenced the best line: “I hate the goddamn system, Briggs, but until something better comes along, I’m sticking with it…” (paraphrased)

Wait – did *I* quote Dirty Harry? oh that’s hysterical. I don’t think I even saw it but I guess I absorbed it somewhere along the line. Man, that just made my day tongue emoticon
[uh oh – I just did it again, didn’t I? tongue emoticon ]

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Now I have to watch it and take notes. Maybe I absorbed him somewhere along the line. There’s a good chance I saw it as a kid on TV somewhere in the 80s, or it got referenced elsewhere and I absorbed it that way. Fascinating — I’m always trying to trace where my “concepts” come from… and Dirty Harry was a place I never thought I’d look.

[I already figured out that I was greatly influenced by the “Scripts People Play” and “I’m ok/you’re ok” stuff from the 80s … lol you’ve just helped me on one of my ‘life projects”. Dirty Harry – I would’ve never guessed but it’s making sense.

I guess I’d be the Dirty Harry that deals with it and stays away from the guns and the justice. I can’t shoot a rifle straight, so it’s probably a good thing.

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