“asshole pride” for men is equivalent to “bitch pride” for women. Has more to do with pride than income or productivity.

“asshole pride” for men is equivalent to “bitch pride” for women. Has more to do with pride than income or productivity.

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Plenty of Low-T assholes out there. They have ‘something to prove’ all of the time to make up for their low abilities.

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Nah, they just get stuck in a rut. good salesman comes along, does the asshole/nice guy Dr. Jekyll / Mr Hyde mind-game trick and goes down the emotional manipulation route ’til the woman listens to herself and wakes up.

Hardly a call for more assholary.

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Best fathers for offspring is combination of love and security [which can include income potential among other things but not necessarily anything to do with being an asshole].

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this might be how *you* guys would choose a mate if you were a woman, but what convinces you that this is how women choose a mate?

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oh, evolutionary psychology… yeah, ok, i thought I smelled something familiar.

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That’s the theory. None of us have proper time travel machines to provide evidence. Just storytelling and speculation that sounds plausible.

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Some play games. Some are serious.

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So, the fittest were the ADHDs among the ancients? k.

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Reminds me of my 6th grade history book with the cleanshaven white faced, blond haired cavemen with the blond haired woman over the shoulder pictures. Ppl still believe this stuff which is funny.

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Seems like overcompensation into hypermasculinity resulting from lack of decent male role models. It’s a common problem among young black men.

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They’re nice stories but more the stuff of myth, legend and fable than anything.

Khan’s direct family gained great political power in different regions as did their kids, procreating along the way of course, and when you’re in a position of political power, you have relative health and safety afforded to you.

Similar reason to why the kings/queens of western europe are who most whites are derived from: poor families die off, rich families live longer healthier lives because of better care and security.

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Through keeping their gains and minimizing their loses. It’s as much a game of smarts and political intrigue as it is through anything.

The roar of the battlefield is shortlived. The times spent in power are long and dull.

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Indeed. Some of the most powerful people in history are names we’ll never know. The ears to the king. Their wives. Their kids. Their favorite oracle.

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I’m sure they were while the battles went on. But battles are often surprising, quick, fierce and then…

over.

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Most people don’t care who is in power at all, so long as they’re not complete douchbags.

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You like that narrative then by all means. Lots of historical narratives focus on the wars and battles, so if those are the stories you like, go for it.

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You like the Great Man narratives. I like the Zeitgeist narratives. [man whose time had come, didn’t matter who]. You like the “strength of will” stories. I like the systemic tellings of history.

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No delusions here. Just different ways of viewing history. This view gives you inspiration and a narrative to tell others. That’s great.

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It’s good to know where you stand. I know where I stand. We work from different narratives but end up achieving the same goal [‘what’s my place in the scheme of things], so it works out.

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Example: One of my ‘places in the scheme of things’ (there’s several I’ve discerned through the years), is diplomat. Diplomacy requires tugging back and forth, some compromise of the frills but integrity at the cores and establishing some common ground in at least one of the cores.

[this is my definition of diplomacy, YMMV].

Right here in this discussion, I fulfilled my place. I have to walk with integrity at every turn, with every move, with every engagement.

I don’t even seek validation as it’s more of a ‘necessary thing’.

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Oh I agree. Validation is important in the general. I’m speaking more of how i see my own role in things.

In a sense, achieving diplomacy in communications is a form of validation but it’s less the appearance as in reputation, peer approval and such, but rather speaks to an inner drive that moves me forward and guides my decision-making.

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A similar notion is the ‘measure of character”: Character is who you are when nobody is looking. The roles you play for others is your political stance. It’s how you wish people to view you and validation is necessary for confirmation.

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Power has many facets and forms.

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I don’t know. I see love as an action, a “doing”, not a lifeless noun.

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Never said it wasn’t ok. There’s biological components to every action as we’re biological beings.

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You don’t need my validation if it’s true.

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You assume I”m unconvinced. Just because I use a different narrative doesn’t mean we might not be in fundamental agreement in some way.

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We’ve already established agreement that our quests here as it were are important in helping us establish a firm stance of our place in the scheme of things.

It also almost goes without saying that we’re biological beings and that our biology plays a part in our decision-making.

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But there are many paths to power. You’ve chosen one path as your preferred narrative for your preferred style of power. There are others.

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I know you’re trying to say that. But it’s unconvincing as you’ve presented it. Here’s why I say narrative: We’re communicating with words, not swords. We’re communicating with logic and reason, not sheer force of muscle. Narratives. Rhetoric.

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It is power, but it’s power of a different nature. Is it imposing? Only if there is a power differential.

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That’s a nice assumption but is it ingrained and permanent or practiced and exercised situationally?

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I never asserted that we were equals. There’s always a tug of war. I’m asking if you see it as ingrained and permanent or practiced and exercised situationally?

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You’re born with certain traits that can be either expressed or repressed depending on circumstance and choice, yes?

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That’s your philosophy. You’re free to have that philosophy. I don’t assign worth in that way as there is no objective lens for that, just our own subjective ones.

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Good good. I just wanted confirmation. Did you know that even two computers made on the same assembly line next to each other are not equal? The moment they’re turned on, their bits are flipped differently and the longer they’re used, the more differences there are. When people say their “computer has a personality”, they’re not wrong.

Good, I’m glad to hear that.

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Some people believe that inherent differences are purely / solely genetic and carry through life, regardless of circumstance or choice.

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I can type 110 wpm. I reached that limit in my early 20s. I’m 44. I have never exceeded 110 wpm except for bursts. It’s a biological limitation. I can give other examples, but i know them well.

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I was also born 1/2 deaf and 1/2 blind and premature, diagnosed with cerebral palsy. But physical therapy from the ages of 2.5-4.5 improved neural connectivity thanks to plasticity allowing me to enter regular school and appear, by all intents and purposes, entirely everyday, average and normal.

So this is one of the ways I know that you can exceed *apparent* limitations through hard training.

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i am biased, through hard-won experience, towards narratives which allow room for choice, struggle, flexibility, willpower, not over others, but over self-mastery. So I am biased towards self-mastery narratives rather political power over other people or winning discussions through rhetoric.

I’m also biased against “accepting the reality” narratives because ‘the reality’ (as seen by others) is something I must always fight against and overcome. It more often than not becomes constraints upon one’s choices in life.

Do you know your fullest capabilities? Do you know someone else’s fullest capabilities? How can you ask someone to accept what you yourself do not know?

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Of course there are constraints. I cannot fly by flapping my wings but I can take a plane. I can’t teleport to Venus and live but I can enact it through fiction and get there that way if I chose.

Reality is going to smack us in the head whether we accept it or fight it.
Things will happen to us whether we accept it or fight it.

We are definitely subjects to our biology and it’s important sometimes to listen to authorities when they tell us something we don’t want to hear. But there are other times where the authorities are not and are merely posturing. There are also a lot of scam artists out there who give all the words and moves of authorities but they are not. Discernment is a critical skill for survival.

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But we accept most of those things as children, don’t we?

Do you know what the most common preoccupation with 6 year olds is world wide?

Death. Death. That is the age when people typically realize that with death, there’s no coming back, and they’ll die one day and they won’t come back. From that point ,they pretend for the sake of adults, and maybe they’ll believe in further things later through fancy teaches, but by the age of 6, maybe 7, they know they’re going to die.

As children, you’re constantly bombarded with limitations. Childhood is full of such things.

Granted, there are delusions out there. People who buy the lottery tickets weekly, certain that ‘this time they’re going to win”. Well, that’s foolish.

But someone else decides to eat healthier to gain a few extra years? That’s not foolish because it can. Limitations might not be breakable but they can be stretched.

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I’m naturally strong. Protein loves me. I’ve pushed cars out of ditches here just by holding a firm stance with one arm. I don’t work out – the muscles twitch and strength on their own. [probably part of that cerebral palsy thing that otherwise I don’t seem to have any real signs of].

So this is a biological improvement that I cannot control. [I could but have no desire to].

Now let’s say a woman wants my strength.

Should she not strive for it because somebody tells a story about cavemen and women and biological imperatives?

No, that’d be stupid. She can gain what’s necessary to be able to do what I can.

In short, arguing that people should stay in their place because of [some story about our past] is ridiculous.

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There is an upper limit but do you know it?

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Sure they’re changable. Hormone treaments and surgery. Implanted color contacts. You might not grow younger: Time seems to go one way. You will die someday. Time seems to go one way. You can change your melatonin if you chose.

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First off, your DNA is different in different parts of your body. Your liver may be female. Your spleen may be male. You’re not universally just one. We’re all a mixture, although we tend to be ‘more male’ or ‘more female’.

Giving birth would require artificial uterus. Technologically possible if not now then soon.

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CRISPR’s here. It’ll be slow at first, but its coming. These prior absolutes will one day no longer be absolutes.

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This editing will one day be effective on grown adults for gene edits. It’s not long. They’re testing as alternative therapy for certain cancers now: attempting to genetically modify the cancers (or the body to fight it – I don’t remember which).

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It’s foreseeable that someone who wants blue eyes will one day be able to get their genes modified so that their eyes turn blue and stay blue.

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We all have cancer. Just have to hope it doesn’t express itself.

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They have a vaccine for cervical cancer now. In the USA, it’s strongly suggested that girls and boys around the age of 12 get it. It’s sexually transmitted.

My 11 yr old nephew’s aware he’s getting it next year and that it’s for a certain kind of cancer he won’t get but he hasn’t decided to ask the ‘how’ just yet, as he’s creeping up on the ‘having questions that need answers’ point but he’s not QUITE ready yet. I expect him to get crappy info from one of his friends that he’ll check with me (hopefully).

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In any case, I understand if you might find these kinds of changes to be morally undesirable but the permanence of most of these things is becoming less and less permanent.

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There will be PLENTY of paranoid people who watched the Fly that will write plenty of letters to make sure that there is ethical oversight to any scientific experiments that might ‘go too far’.People like you will make sure it doesn’t go haywire. So I’m not worried.
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 Same reason AI isn’t going to take over the planet.
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  That’s what people always say. Then they grow old and die.
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 I work on AI stuff as a hobby on the side. I know what it can and can’t do right now. It’s the people doing the programming of the AI you have to watch out for.
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 Deus Ex was a late 80s/early 90s video game I think. I remember something by that name. We called it “day of sex”. Anyway, I made an AI try to guess my face a few years ago. He did pretty good but didn’t quite get it right yet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQuFUPlkkQ
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 I got it from BBS’ and Usenet in the early 1990s :P Learned a lot from Phracks too, although most of that knowledge is WAY outdated.Always good to be prepared. I still remember my first “how to build your own nuclear device in your backyard” text file. Prices for parts were too high though.
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 hat’s my plan. Under each key of my keyboard here I shrunk down little hamsters whose job it is to transfer power from my fingers to the computer.Other tiny hamsters relay their messages to each other, mouth to ear, until they reach the wifi transmitter.Then one of them has to sacrifice himself and become electromagnetic. The process goes on from there.
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 You should see them color my screen. About 10,000 of them with buckets of paint and a squegee. red, green and blue. and yea, I’m missing sleep too and wired on coffe
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 Zinc, b12 and magnesium. Regular dose.
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 You can lay in bed and think of all the potential points of structural failure in your room. Envision a bubble of air getting below the paint skin and the wall and a tiny drop of water. They move down in concert ’til they reach the electric socket and short it out while you sleep. That’ll help you have sweet dreams
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 damn you think stupid shit like me. Always though I should get a structural engineering job where I had to look for failure points. I’d enjoy that.
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 Same. It’s why I break my sleep up into two halves. 3 hrs, 9-10 hours up, another 3 hours, another 9-10 hours. Best sleep pattern for me.
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 I moved up from the quark levels ’cause that was headache land. I like sticking with photon/electron level although I have visions of someday having “neutrino vision”. I’d love to see what they see. Their lack of interaction… oh wait.. their lack of interaction means they wouldn’t see much at all. Dang it.
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 Yeah, I’ve had whole weekends like that. I go from project-to-project to maximize use of my up time, which is most of the time.When I *do* sleep, I dream. The moment I get up, I make it a point to figure out all of the metaphors in the dream that tied into the last waking period or the one before that. After a minute of that, I’m satisfied that I have a good interpretation of my dream and I’m up.
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 I sometimes have a thought that the Universe is a multidimensional dirty photon with a bit of jagged gravity stuck to it and that’s what all this is. I imagine how the experience of the photon is
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 The Pauli exclusion principle always pissed me off though. I want to turn it off sometimes and go through my chair, the floor, the dirt, to the center of the earth along with everything else but turn on their own just before they hit each other in the middle.Or just do it to everything else. Then remove the earth and look at everything humans ever made and all the people and animals all together in a gravitational ball floating through space.
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 i probalby do now too. Was good @ one time but that’s when I cared about winning. Always liked video game music. Mostly I like making stupid videos using inadequate software (ffmpeg, windows movie maker, audacity, etc) that few will ever see or like. Some are challenging (“do something impossible daily”) or this one , “Hey, I wonder what it would sound like / look like?”
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 This one I’m proud of. Found a Russian only book on this Russian visual programming language I wanted to learn. translated it into English, set it to text to voice and had it read each language off each speaker. Took a whole weekend of no sleep to figure out how to do it while doing it. Gave the author of the book (Russian) a pdf of my English translation.First and only time I did anything close to that but it was what insomnia and curiousity can do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdqfjsyxNyw
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 I only know how to say “I only speak russian a little” from Russian lessons long ago. But I can read it at least. Maybe if Putin gets closer to the US, I can break open my old Russian language stuff. man I need sleep…
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 no idea naymore. It was from a CD I got from eBay in 1999 when I was learning it still. Lost it long ago.Yeah, I stopped learning Russian when I realized this:”If I have nothing to say in English, what makes me say I’ll have something to say in Russian?”
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 Still love etymology + linguistics and shit. I just stick to English though mostly as there’s plenty to do here.
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  besides, when google translate became usable in the late 00s, I was satisfied. I just use that – and use it a lot. I have a Korean friend who’s at university learning quantum mechanics. He doesn’t write english and I don’t write korean. WE use google translate back and forth on each other. The translation results are terrible but close enough to work with.
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 I wouldn’t want to do foreign business with it but if my friend’s complaining about his unfair parents or his girlfriend problems, it’s perfect.
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