What’s hard is we’re not starting from [null].
We’re born into these systems and are intertwined with them the moment the law makes decisions on our behalf.
I mean they don’t, really, ultimately… but they have the ability to compel certain decisions lest we face some consequence laid out before we could go “wahh!”
But that’s not so much the issue you’re referring to I think.
Once you’re in a position to stake your spot, how do you make it your own?
Is it too late by then? For some things it may be.
Despite the dreams of mathematical physics, information *does* in fact, realistically, pragmatically, get lost. All of the time. It’s inaccessible or smeared and folded and burned and gone.
Such is how it is.
Yet other information lingers. Lingers and lingers.
But both are rather static “is/Isn’t states.
Information once possessed can be chopped up, sliced, diced, and – attributed.
Are you an attribute?
Is something an attribute of you?
From an information point of view, can you be created of attributes? Can things created be attributes of you, defined there as a collection of attributes as well?
How can this affect 3D + Time you?
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I wish that information was neither created nor destroyed. I believed it as a kid because science shows (NOVA / Carl Sagan told me so) and Science classes but my life experiences told me otherwise.
Probably – almost assuredly – why I’m a packrat and obsessively save information.
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Digital packrat am I, moreso than physical, but that too a little.
https://archive.org/details/kennethudut
[it was a pain in the ass figuring out how to grab them from the Vine service and convince internet archive to take all I gave them… there was a bit of an email exchange as the process I came up with was… too aggressive. [part manual, mostly automated]
They have mirrors in canada and in the library of alexandria (yes it’s back) and there’s other more decentralized distributions floating around. Because it’s their mission and I trust the people involved, I use it. [but of course, I have home copies]. So that’s just one.
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Also I *really* wanted my data to be attached to a DOI. DOI has a different kind of persistence and I wanted a part of it.
FIgured out a spot where I didnt’ have to be part of a university.
https://data.mendeley.com/datasets/92825j2d2r/1
DOI: 10.17632/92825j2d2r.1
which needs updating but I’m glad to get what I have there so far.
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My attitude towards my data is formed on a different model than your system. It’s the “fuck-it-all/have-it-all” model. My change of mind happened in 2001 or 2002 when Google acquired Altavista’s Usenet and it became Google Groups.
Suddenly, every stupid thing I wrote since 1990 on Usenet was there, including embarrassing shit, searchable by what was becoming the common default ‘search for all internet’ at the time.
So, I put some KILLS in and it worked and all is well. But it was at that point I realized, “Privacy? lol no. I don’t get to have that”
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I looked up Cloward-Piven but I can’t make the logical connection that you see. Seems to have something to do with welfare?
As far as forum convos go if they matter save them. I’ve been tracking down what I’ve written since 1990 and SO MUCH IS GONE. Earlier persistence of data was promised (mostly by corps but even trusteds) – but *poof* gone. So, so so much is gone.
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Oh that 
🙂 I don’t want everybody to do what I do. I’m throwing up everything “of me” that I can in as many places as I can so that when I die I live on annoyingly in some corner, even if nobody’s looking. I’ll still be there, somewhere.
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Yup. Out of those 82 downloads of my Mendeley data, I don’t know who has it, nor do I care. Reconstruct me. Create a fake convincing Kenneth Udut AI somewhere. use me as a model for “Average [x]” – whatever. Parse, sort, spit it back changed. It’s all good.
Do I expect any of that? Nope. But it’s my best shot of bits of my mental algorithms that I produce (my thoughts) activating those of other people in some way, allowing me to live on in some form in them, whether anonymous or known.
I say this seeing myself as a part of a continuum of bubbles rising and falling out of the lifeform that’s smeared over the planet for 4 billion years. I acquired other algorithms and I pass on as much as I can. I’d’ love a preserved identity but if that’s lost, at least the algorithms continue.
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The method of “overwhelm the system so it breaks” is one I see a lot. It’s been popular online over the past 10-15 years or so, gaining in greater and greater popularity as broadband increased in spread and general populations entered online with more of a “crowd mentality”.
Peaked in the late 00s/early 10s with a few massive demonstrations of this type of power, down to the level of kids with less than two digits to their age running scripts to knock down an enemy’s Minecraft server through DDoSing all the way to crowds of ‘folk’ on certain websites that I don’t talk much about that started realizing their power-as-image-then-activity, rather activity-then-image.
[in short, political].
Watching the bubble burst onto real-world (lol) politics in larger areas than those of local elections (which was common enough use of online grassroots even in early 90s internet with smaller numbers) or political activism of causes) has been somewhat interesting but now that it’s so very exposed, its power is gone. Once public knows of the ways of such things, the effects lessen and everybody just got a little smarter in the process, which is happening now.
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Yeah I get that too. I have to go back mentally to the same state I was in at the time, remembering surrounding events and things in order to make sense of things.
This one wasn’t hard because it’s really not so different from how I think now but my greater knowledge in several fields I’d phrase things different.
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does the CERN portal teleport using quanta or utilizing a classical physics model? if quantized, I’d prefer pilot wave model so at least my harmonics might arrive in case there’s an error before I step through.
Oh wait, it’s pop tarts. Turing. Memory stack. Should be ok, but please have it be NOR based RAM non-volitile rather than NAND ’cause I don’t my push/pop stack tarts to be missing any of crumbs.
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Troubling point in OP is “exactly”.
Now approximately is possible but the paths may differ, even if functionally the same in output. In this way you can approximate my mind within yours at a certain loss of acuity but enough, like a stereotype that is effective for many, a better one for most, an even better one for family and friends, but not good enough for best friend / lover and far from self.
Some examples of strange attractor possibilities in order for you to realize your other body embodiment of mind.
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pubs/paper391.htm
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Florida strangely enough has one of the most transparent systems in place. I’m from New Jersey which was all about privacy and stuff. Had to pay for data, lots of secrets everywhere.
But Florida for 15 years now. Their “Sunshine Laws” are amazing.
On one hand, your every traffic stop, late payment, even who you voted for, is up for the public to see in open access online databases. [Did I pay my business taxes yet? You can find out]
On the other hand, every police report is public. Local, county and state governments are not allowed to have private meetings. Everything is on record.
Consequently? Nobody cares, except for the “look how weird florida is everybody!” people.
Fact is, people are weird and stupid everywhere you go. But because there’s no hiding anything (theoretically and in practice it works well), it’s a strange kind of security.
I don’t know how they pulled it off well but it seems they have.
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I mean you have your privacy. People aren’t snooping into your homes and stuff. But if it’s public record, it’s _really_ public record.
Example: In some states, it’s easy to hide your corporate identity through a chain of corporations or fictitious names. In most state, you have to pay to access this public information and wait… wait… wait.
Florida? No problem. Just type in a few words.
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/ByName
I was bored a few years ago and created a chain of fictitious names so that I am also a fictitious name of myself.
I’m not doing anything evil with it, but i could. But since it’s public record, I don’t care. [I was killing off a credit card at the time because my credit was going to crap, so it was worth it for the poetics of it. In part of the chain I made myself, “somebody owned by nobody”, literally.
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Here we go. It was $50 each for a total of I don’t remember how many I made, but I was in an “f’it” mode for a few months.
Now if someone says, “Nobody cares” I can legally say, “I’m nobody, so I care”. Might seem stupid in retrospect but I liked he symbolism.
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Oh! That’s me. http://icopiedyou.com – yeah that’s the place I dump everything I write into including these words here, because I don’t trust Facebook to keep them for me
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