Are American supporters of BLM citizens of the United States? Are the residents of Portland Oregon who are having block parties in the street citizens of the United States?

Are American supporters of BLM citizens of the United States? Are the residents of Portland Oregon who are having block parties in the street citizens of the United States?
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You made contrasts pitting the citizens entering Portland in Trump 2020 trucks with paintball guns and pepper spray vs rioters/protesters/blm supporters/etc.
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 Implying the people going into Portland uninvited from Clackmas Oregon were an honorable militia emboldened by the US Constitution to fight on behalf of the President of the United States.
It’s important. A lot of people have that wrong. They think that committing a crime forfeits citizenship or incarceration or felony conviction. But it does not.

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No such thing. I understand a lot the errors in thinking you’ve made in our discussion much better now.

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Their status is that of inmates. But they remain US citizens. A status of US citizen inmate means a lesser set of rights afforded to you. Similar things occur when one is a minor or one is mentally incapacitated.
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HOWEVER: there is a loophole in the 13thA which is why inmates can be treated so poorly: Check this out:
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
Look for the word “except”.
The amendment that SUPPOSEDLY abolished slavery, did not actually do so.
  • So, they are US Citizens, with a status of inmate.
    Status of inmate, besides having a whole SEPARATE section of laws just for them, ALSO affords the State the right to treat them as indentured servants during their stay in the prison system thanks to the 13th Amendment.
    So their rights are restricted, then restricted even more.
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Inmates are subject to the laws of the United States. Just as we are.
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They never lost their citizenship. Slaves and Indentures Servants were also citizens of the United States too just with fewer or no rights. But subject to the laws just the same.
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Of course they are subject to the laws. If they were not, they would be free.
If you break the law, you are subject to the law. If you follow the law you are subject to the law. In both cases, you are subject to the law because you are a citizen.
If you are a citizen of Belarus living in Belarus you are not subject to US laws.
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 The United States is a “Nation of Laws”. Literally.
The US Government is CONSTRUCTED of laws.
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What makes the United States rather UNIQUE on the planet is we are a “nation of laws, not a nation of men”.
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But they are. That’s why they get a right to appeal. That’s why they get visitation rights. That’s why they have the right to not be tortured. The right to free speech (believe it or not), etc.
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Sounding like a mistake right now. You won’t even recognize citizens as citizens yet you want an amended right.
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Yes. There are levels of citizen. Red car is not blue car but both are car.

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You say that, and yet there are 193 nations of which most people are a part of, and also people who are not a part of any of those states who are considered Stateless.

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As US Inmates are NOT Stateless, they are Stateful beings. The State is the United States and it is of the United States that they are citizens of.
Why? Because they are not citizens of any of the other 192 states, NOR are they stateless.
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We are a nation of laws. a “person” is a legality that extends not only to citizens but also to corporations and other entities.
A citizen is also a legality.
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There is no flesh-and-blood “person” really in the united states unless a law happens to designate it as a person.
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The united states confers far far far too many rights to corporations.
It’s a 19th century lie that “corporations are people” is built upon but it’s been hard for anybody to challenge it and it’s become embedded.
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We are a Nation of Laws, not a Nation of Logic.
That’s something that can get annoying.
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United States is a nation of laws. Laws decide who is a person and who is a nonperson.
Science of biology does not rule the United States legal definitions. Lawmakers decide that.
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Well, you’re in a nation of laws governed by the rule of law and corporations formed in the united states are subject to united states law. You use united states currency, operate on united states soil, over internet wires running through us ground and air owned by corporations subject to united states laws powered by electricity controlled by united states law by companies subject to united states law and run by a government subject to united states law.

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