“Affective consciousness” – ah! In this paper I’m reading that’s showing all the ways they think the notion of plant consciousness is wrong, they bring up Affective Consciousness – emotional. They have this to say: “The only organisms that fit this criterion for affective consciousness are the vertebrates (all), arthropods (all), and cephalopods (octopus, squid, cuttlefish). Also see the similar theory of Bronfman et al. (2016) and Ginsburg and Jablonka (2019, 2021), with which we agree. Now we are ready to evaluate the claim that plants have affective consciousness.” which tells me that these skeptics at least believe that all vertebrates, all arthropods and cephalapods have affective intelligence. So at least there’s that much. I’m looking for points of agreement and this one at least gets to squid

“Affective consciousness” – ah! In this paper I’m reading that’s showing all the ways they think the notion of plant consciousness is wrong, they bring up Affective Consciousness – emotional. They have this to say:
 
“The only organisms that fit this criterion for affective consciousness are the vertebrates (all), arthropods (all), and cephalopods (octopus, squid, cuttlefish). Also see the similar theory of Bronfman et al. (2016) and Ginsburg and Jablonka (2019, 2021), with which we agree. Now we are ready to evaluate the claim that plants have affective consciousness.”
 
which tells me that these skeptics at least believe that all vertebrates, all arthropods and cephalapods have affective intelligence. So at least there’s that much. I’m looking for points of agreement and this one at least gets to squid

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