95-99 is part of 2nd wave millennial, pre-Minecraft generation. Lots of Hitler fetishing, prone to say “kys” and “drink bleach” unironically. Not Z. When you see Z using Hitler references it’s *ironically*, not seriously. They are *making fun of* late millennial, not embracing.

95-99 is part of 2nd wave millennial, pre-Minecraft generation. Lots of Hitler fetishing, prone to say “kys” and “drink bleach” unironically. Not Z.

When you see Z using Hitler references it’s *ironically*, not seriously. They are *making fun of* late millennial, not embracing.

Millennials were born around 1980-2000-ish I prefer 1984-2004 but ppl born in 95-99 are DEFINITELY not GenZ.

===

I’m 2nd Wave X. Big diff btwn 1st and 2nd waves. I think it’s similar with Millennial/Y.

===

is millennial talk, and poorly too. “af” / “fam”, emojis – that’s all Instagram late millennial speak. GenZ mocks that way of writing.

===

That’s WAY too early. That’s 2nd wave millennial.

===

I believe you then. If you were 100% unironically conservative, I’d say you were a late millennial pretending.

—-

Are there still edgy kids or are they mostly ironically edgy?

====

. My nephew’s going on 13. He’s “ironically edgy” but he does it for the memes. He looks down on one of his classmates who drank the 4chan kool-aid but that kids parents are militia nuts so..

—–

His middle school is no help. We’re solidly in white power territory. He wants me to get him a copy of the Communist Manifesto (so he can mess with one of his teachers who says “communism is a cancer” and used to complain about “l i b e r a l s” until she abruptly stopped.

In the school library, the only book on Hitler is a book on Hitler Youth. It’s not overly toxic here but it’s definitely a quiet underneath thing.

===

I go with the later rather than earlier.

MTV described Generation Z as those born after December 2000, for a survey conducted by the network regarding possible names for the cohort.[15] The Asia Business Unit of Corporate Directions, Inc describes Gen Z as born between 2001-2015,[36] and Philippine Retailers Association describes Generation Z as born after 2000.[37]

The American Marketing Association describes Generation Z as those born after, or just before, September 11, 2001, suggesting the cohort should be dubbed Gen 9/11 arguing “all children who don’t remember Sept. 11, 2001, will experience a world totally different from all generations that preceded it”.[38]

Author Neil Howe defines the cohort as people born from approximately 2005–2025, but describes the dividing line between Generation Z and Millennials as “tentative” saying, “you can’t be sure where history will someday draw a cohort dividing line until a generation fully comes of age”. Howe says that the Millennials’ range beginning in 1982 points to the next generation’s window starting between 2000 and 2006

===

I use “Minecraft” as the divisor. Pre-minecraft is late millennial / 2nd wave, Minecraft/post-Minecraft is Z. ,

===
Your comments about the nuanced generational differences are interesting

===

Thank you! I don’t know. I pay attention to meme patterns and have dealt with a lot of people in Z age range over the last 8 yrs I’d say, as they burst into online en masse and it was fascinating to see.

===

I’m hoping school does a better job than it has so far but US schools are notoriously awful at teaching history and not much has improved since I was a kid.

But with Youtube and the democracy of information available online, along with an uncle (me) to try to fix some wrong ideas, I think he’ll be ok.

===

GenZ reminds me a LOT of my Gen so far. [2nd wave GenX]. Less prone to cult as boom or mill, more friendly nihilism, yet know you gotta watch your own cash because ‘the system” isn’t for you etc.

===

 

I think Z’s would be more likely to be ironic about politics too, mocking the seriousness of the prior gen.
===
  My politics never changed, just got refined. I was “but that’s not right” about school, later about the workplace, etc. Never liked power differences being abused.I’m 46 now. They *say* “you get conservative when you get older” but I think the conservatism was there young too, if they have it older.
===
 Yeah I mean the more you realize how complicated life is, the more sympathetic you get. I think people who live in safe isolated communities might stay conservative but most people who have to deal with roughness, unless they have a lack-of-empathy problem, grow.
===
  I agree. I think ancient world history teaching is improved but from 1500-onwards, I didn’t see any change in my nephew’s textbooks in the 2010s that I saw in mine in the 1980s.
===
  I heard Houston tends to lean SLIGHTLY left of center compared to a lot of Texas but I don’t know much about Texas.
===
 “ Damn I was hoping there was an article out there exploring the sociological differences between Y and Z, especially in regards to online culture and memes. You would have made a good anthropologist/sociologist, frendo.
====
 I’m honored! Sometimes I think of myself as an internet anthopologist / internet sociologist because I just love watching these patterns unfold and disperse, morph and change.
===
  I hope someday they succeed in making a good “world history” narrative that gives perspectives equal time and would be acceptable everywhere.Someday.
===
  alt-right is mostly made up of millennials too though. I’d say that you’re just less extreme and more sensible and “it’s all about the meme”.
===
  but I’m stereotyping… and I don’t like doing that.. although hard to avoid when talking about stereotypes…
===
  I’ve noticed Z’s seem to HATE the “underdog always beats the bully” narrative because it’s over simplistic, not nearly ironic enough, too black and white, which is more a boomer + millennial thing.But this is anecdotal.

===
  Gosh that’s ALL I do sometimes. I spent a year in “internet philosophy” groups to understand their mindset. I spent 3 yrs dealing with far right political people to understand them, although I stopped once they made news.. before all that it was studying New Atheist mindset….

and sometimes it’s not opposite but novel. Back in 2011, I was trying to understand “brony culture”, then Minecraft culture and then furry culture… – and it’s been a trip.

===

Leave a comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *


7 − = six

Leave a Reply